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Since you are on this website, you probably have a general knowledge of the two competing political camps in America, liberalism and conservatism. Surprisingly, a lot of people who live their lives in a conservative way vote for liberals, which is against their self-interest. To understand why this happens, let's look at the basic idea behind liberalism.
Liberals core principle or ideology is that the government should do for people what they cant do for themselves. This gives the government more power at the expense of the freedom of the people.
For instance, liberals don't think that people in general are capable of taking care of their own health. So they set up huge government agencies like Medicaire, Medicaid, and are even trying to nationalize health insurance. Of course, it takes a lot of tax money to pay for these liberal programs.
Liberals don't think people are capable of providing their own meals or paying their bills, so they set up Welfare programs and hand out food stamps and WIC (more tax money).
Liberals don't think people are capable of planning their own retirement, so they set up Social Security and block any efforts to change that broken system (more tax money).
Liberals don't think people are capable of managing their own education, so they set up public schools which happen to be run by more liberals (more tax money).
Liberals don't think people are capable of choosing their own lifestyle, so they pass laws that tell people what they can and can't eat and drink, where they can live, what they can listen to on the radio or watch on tv, what kinds of cars they will drive and how parents should raise their kids (less personal freedom).
Basically, liberalism is the belief that the average person is too dumb to take care of themself, so they need a big government to take care of them. Liberals believe that they are the smartest and most caring people, so they should run the government (more tax money) that takes care of the poor dumb people .
People vote for liberals because the idea of helping their neighbor through liberal social programs sounds good. But instead of helping them, these government programs create huge groups of people who will not be responsible for their own well-being.
Today, more than half of the people in the United States receive some kind of money from the government, and they are supported by the tax dollars of the minority. Financially, this cannot work in the long run.
Liberalism is socialism and marxism. It fails every time it is tried.

conservativekids.net, conservativekids 89 Comments [9/28/2009 6:27:31 AM]
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Since you are not brain-dead, you probably have a general knowledge of the two competing political camps in America, liberalism and conservatism.



People vote for liberals because the idea of helping their neighbor through liberal social programs sounds good. But why the heck should I help my neighbor when I don't need any help myself?



I have no idea what the differences are between communism and socialism.
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9/28/2009 10:48:15 AM

Freethink

I won't waste my breath to refute this ghastly post. Suffice to say these people are selfish, uncaring, me firsters that have no milk of human kindness in them. They are horrible people, I wouldn't want to know. They are evil and disgusting. Can't you just feel the warmth of their humanity? (snark)

9/28/2009 11:35:50 AM

Random Man

"For instance, liberals don't think that people in general are capable of taking care of their own health."

Ok, kids. Now we are going to teach you how to operate on your own knee. Find a vein in your arm and take the scalpel and trace it. Good, now in a few minutes you will feel no pain and be able t operate safely on your leg- or see Jesus- whichever comes first.

"Liberals don't think people are capable of managing their own education, so they set up public schools which happen to be run by more liberals"

Ok, kids. Now we are going to teach you to teach yourself to teach yourself, bye!

"Liberals don't think people are capable of choosing their own lifestyle, so they pass laws that tell people what they can and can't eat and drink, where they can live, what they can listen to on the radio or watch on tv, what kinds of cars they will drive and how parents should raise their kids (less personal freedom)."

No, that's what YOU do!

"Basically, liberalism is the belief that the average person is too dumb to take care of themself, so they need a big government to take care of them."

No, just that they don't have the money to do so all of the time. This is where taxing the rich comes in.

9/28/2009 11:45:37 AM

Dark_Lord_Prime

"...the average person is too dumb to take care of themself..."

You don't say.

9/28/2009 11:48:19 AM

Dudely

According to this logic the fact that I can be arrested for taking a shit in you living room is a liberal conspiracy.

9/28/2009 12:11:51 PM



Conservatism: the idea that people are so dumb and incapable of caring for themselves that government programs intended to help a small group will control everybody's lives.

Conservatism: the idea that people aren't worth as much as the money you save in not paying taxes.

Conservatism: believing that giving other people freedoms takes away the freedom of the elite.

Conservatism: the 1950's were the peak of human existence. I wanna go back!!!!

9/28/2009 12:12:37 PM

LDM

"Liberals don't think people are capable of choosing their own lifestyle, so they pass laws that tell people what they can and can't eat and drink, where they can live, what they can listen to on the radio or watch on tv, what kinds of cars they will drive and how parents should raise their kids (less personal freedom)."

Says the people who want to ban gay marriage, abortion, women working, the teaching of evolution, Harry Potter, just about every TV show ever made, and every religion that's not their version of christianity.

9/28/2009 12:13:51 PM

BobsOldSocks

Typical rethuglican "I'm all right, Jack, fuck you" mentality. Whenever I read or hear anything any conservative has too say about healthcare, I'm immediately reminded of wildlife documentaries about the struggle for life in the Serengeti or some such. That's their societal model in a nutshell - let the weak perish.

"Liberalism is socialism and marxism. It fails every time it is tried."

You're a liar. Socialism is alive an well in Europe and we have better health out-comes than the US - lower infant mortality and greater longevity - and we pay, as a proportion of GDP, less than half as much as the US does for those outcomes! Your insurance companies make 30% profit - THIRTY FUCKING PERCENT! - for doing nothing. Well, that's not quite true, they make money by denying people the treatment they need. They rob you blind, allow your fellow citizens to die and you just bend over and take it like a man.

Conservatives are compassion-less liars and greedy fools and they are *never* right about *anything*.

9/28/2009 12:58:17 PM

EvoPagan

BobsOldSocks

Typical rethuglican "I'm all right, Jack, fuck you" mentality. Whenever I read or hear anything any conservative has too say about healthcare, I'm immediately reminded of wildlife documentaries about the struggle for life in the Serengeti or some such. That's their societal model in a nutshell - let the weak perish.


Then wouldn't that make them DARWINISTS??? Hmmmmmmmmm....

9/28/2009 1:13:04 PM

atrasicarius

...Which explains why the Scandinavian countries are going through a massive depression right now, but our economy is booming. Oh, wait.

9/28/2009 1:40:43 PM

Wehpudicabok

I disagree with every sentence of this post, but conservatism is not fundamentalism and I see nothing fundie about this.

9/28/2009 1:55:18 PM

Jedi Knight

No, it's neither socialism nor marxism, but it bears a striking resemblance to Scandinavian social democracy. Which seems to be working just fine.

9/28/2009 1:58:40 PM

purimpopoie

(more tax money)

That is all.

9/28/2009 2:00:55 PM



-Basically, liberalism is the belief that the average person is too unfortunate to take care of themself due to conservatives doing everything they can to milk every last dime out of the people, so they need a big government to take care of them.-

There, fixed.

9/28/2009 2:26:28 PM

El Zorro

Well, someone doesn't know what Liberalism is.

Besides, it's pretty crummy to summarize welfare systems as "teh goverment don't think you can take care of yourself." It's shit like this that make public political discourse appear like a shit-flinging fest at the monkey zoo.

9/28/2009 3:09:34 PM

sooze

Liberalism: Do whatever the fuck you want AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T HARM ANYONE ELSE.

That last part is where Conservatives end up pissing themselves and pitching tantrums like 2-year-olds in a grocery store.

Insurance companies can do whatver the fuck they want AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT KILLING PEOPLE. No, not even if they're making money doing so.

9/28/2009 3:18:34 PM



Liberals core principle or ideology is that the government should do for people what they cant do for themselves. This gives the government more power at the expense of the freedom of the people.

Yeah kinda the point of the government...

For instance, liberals don't think that people in general are capable of taking care of their own health. So they set up huge government agencies like Medicaire, Medicaid, and are even trying to nationalize health insurance. Of course, it takes a lot of tax money to pay for these liberal programs.

And idiot conservatives think that corporations making millions and paying out CEO's enourmous sums, that paying double what the world pays for health care that is not in the top 15 is in their best interests. That large insurance companies dictating health care prices and actively denying people coverage whenever possible is in their best interests.

9/28/2009 4:43:30 PM

BobsOldSocks

@EvoPagan

"Then wouldn't that make them DARWINISTS??? Hmmmmmmmmm.... "

I know, ironic ain't it? All the time they spout off about the evils of "Darwinism" while they themselves are the greatest advocates of their twisted version of it.

9/28/2009 5:32:42 PM

CrazyRoper

For fucks sake go learn what liberalism means.

9/28/2009 6:03:35 PM

Patches

Yeah, how dare we erect safety nets for people instead of just leaving them to die on the streets if things go wrong, since they obviously deserve it.

9/28/2009 6:09:09 PM

Caustic Gnostic

Liberals are tired of the fact that the Same Old Shit doesn't accomplish much, thus they are working toward a more efficient solution.

Conservatives are happiest when they can exercise their traditional tribal egoism.

9/28/2009 6:27:13 PM



Someone is seriously unaware of how the rest of the planet functions. Almost every other industrialized nation has 'liberal' policies and much happier lives than people in the US. They're in better shape, there is more equality, and people get better educations.

But, if you want to keep those conservative blinders on then go right ahead.

9/28/2009 6:37:55 PM

EonBlueTriad

That is one big pile of lies right there. Sad thing is there are people out there who will eat it up.

9/28/2009 7:53:11 PM

Orion

@Wehpudicabok: Point is though that the guy saying it is a fundie! As such it is a reflection of his belief in Republican Jesus!

9/28/2009 11:14:04 PM

Sylvana

"belief that the average person is too dumb to take care of themself"

Given what I see living in africa, thats a pretty accurate statement.

The vast majority of people are not educated enough, or just too lazy to actually use thier brains that they really are too "dumb" to look after themselves.

9/29/2009 12:03:54 AM
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