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Since you are on this website, you probably have a general knowledge of the two competing political camps in America, liberalism and conservatism. Surprisingly, a lot of people who live their lives in a conservative way vote for liberals, which is against their self-interest. To understand why this happens, let's look at the basic idea behind liberalism.
Liberals core principle or ideology is that the government should do for people what they cant do for themselves. This gives the government more power at the expense of the freedom of the people.
For instance, liberals don't think that people in general are capable of taking care of their own health. So they set up huge government agencies like Medicaire, Medicaid, and are even trying to nationalize health insurance. Of course, it takes a lot of tax money to pay for these liberal programs.
Liberals don't think people are capable of providing their own meals or paying their bills, so they set up Welfare programs and hand out food stamps and WIC (more tax money).
Liberals don't think people are capable of planning their own retirement, so they set up Social Security and block any efforts to change that broken system (more tax money).
Liberals don't think people are capable of managing their own education, so they set up public schools which happen to be run by more liberals (more tax money).
Liberals don't think people are capable of choosing their own lifestyle, so they pass laws that tell people what they can and can't eat and drink, where they can live, what they can listen to on the radio or watch on tv, what kinds of cars they will drive and how parents should raise their kids (less personal freedom).
Basically, liberalism is the belief that the average person is too dumb to take care of themself, so they need a big government to take care of them. Liberals believe that they are the smartest and most caring people, so they should run the government (more tax money) that takes care of the poor dumb people .
People vote for liberals because the idea of helping their neighbor through liberal social programs sounds good. But instead of helping them, these government programs create huge groups of people who will not be responsible for their own well-being.
Today, more than half of the people in the United States receive some kind of money from the government, and they are supported by the tax dollars of the minority. Financially, this cannot work in the long run.
Liberalism is socialism and marxism. It fails every time it is tried.

conservativekids.net, conservativekids 89 Comments [9/28/2009 6:27:31 AM]
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Slater

Just because the US has a political scale that goes from right wing to extreme right wing, doesn't mean liberalism is socialism. It's the fucking OPPOSITE!

And hey, once again the right can't defend their views without lying. That just proves so much...

9/29/2009 1:16:15 AM

Slater

(double post - no idea how that happened)

9/29/2009 1:16:16 AM

Nowonmai

Liberalism is socialism and marxism.

Liar.

9/29/2009 2:24:15 AM

noko

Not fundie.

9/29/2009 5:26:18 AM

Dr. Novakaine

Indoctrinate 'em young! They'll blow themselves up for you later!

9/29/2009 8:02:17 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Liberalism is socialism and marxism. It fails every time it is tried."

Funny how those weren't responsible for the massive financial collapse last year. And who was president at the time? Whose economic policies allowed said collapse to occur? Yes, that's right, George Dumbya Bush.

A Conservative.

And it's President Obama, who has to clean up the unholy mess created by your God Emperor of Fucking Up.

A Liberal.

You do the maths. Here endeth the lesson.

9/29/2009 9:36:53 AM

Icky

You're out of your damned mind. The vast majority of "Welfare" dollars (tax dollars) go to corporations - NOT individuals.

And you have no accurate grasp of what motivates Liberals... Please, don't pretend to speak for them.


9/29/2009 11:44:25 AM

Deep Search

I'd hope most kids are smart enough to figure out this is BS...

"Basically, liberalism is the belief that the average person is too dumb to take care of themself, so they need a big government to take care of them."

Um. How about liberalism is about making sure no one is SOL. Not everyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps, even if they do everything "right." Conservatives really don't have a reliable solution to prevent people from being left high and dry when things don't go right. We shouldn't be at the mercy of big corporations or rely on charity, since it's unreliable.

Really all this shows is that conservatives only care about money...

9/29/2009 2:23:55 PM

lb756

I love reading this site, and I'm quite a staunch conservative (I'm British, so both a big C and small c one) albeit not one of the American Bible-Thumper mould, but this isn't fundamentalist, honestly I think some of the remarks in the comments are just as bad as the OP.


9/29/2009 7:28:07 PM

MM

To all those saying that this is not fundie:

It is quite possible for something to be politically fundie. Declaring that liberalism is socialism and communism fits that bill.

9/29/2009 7:58:23 PM

Godbuster

Since EVERYONE has doctorates and diplomas, EVERYONE is qualified and learned enough to maintain their own health.

You're an idiot. Conservatives spend money (and not just a little bit, A LOT) on killing poor people in other countries and then wonder why we have so many starving/uneducated/unhealthy people.

With a conservative vote, you vote for a huge diabetic army of dimwits, armed to their teeth with the finest weaponry diabetic dimwits can produce.

9/29/2009 8:15:11 PM

Porky Pine

"To all those saying that this is not fundie:

It is quite possible for something to be politically fundie. Declaring that liberalism is socialism and communism fits that bill. "

That may be but the scope of this board is against religious fundies.

9/29/2009 8:24:34 PM

Thejebusfire

Liberals don't think people are capable of providing their own meals or paying their bills, so they set up Welfare programs and hand out food stamps and WIC

Funny how the highest amount of recipients of these programs tend to be red states.

Liberals don't think people are capable of choosing their own lifestyle, so they pass laws that tell people what they can and can't eat and drink, where they can live, what they can listen to on the radio or watch on tv, what kinds of cars they will drive and how parents should raise their kids (less personal freedom).

Right, because the AFA never does any of those things.

9/29/2009 9:31:14 PM

Anon-e-moose

@lb756

As a fellow Brit, I have to say that True Conservatism died out when Edward Heath passed away - he was the last True Conservative; certainly the only one I would've shaken by the hand and called sir.

Since then, I've grown to have an absolute hatred of anything & anyone remotely right-wing. In any country. Certainly America. Especially post-war Republican politicians, and those who were religious, and allowed their religion to rule their lives and influence policy. Three Words: George Dumbya Bush.

And as for this country? I'll never trust a Conservative ever again. Two Words:

Maggie Thatcher.

9/30/2009 7:52:41 AM



"Of course, it takes a lot of tax money to pay for these liberal programs. "

I am so tired of people saying this about health care when it is blatantly obvious that other nations that spend ~less~ than us have health care that covers more people in more ways.

9/30/2009 2:49:47 PM

Antichrist

And Republicans think that the people can't be trusted and are all out to screw the government and their corporate buddies.

That's why they strip labour laws and bring in shit like the freedom act.

9/30/2009 3:24:13 PM

painted jezebel

This doesn't really seem "fundie" to me as it's solely focused on politics. The person who wrote it is a bit overboard on some things (social security, public education, and welfare might not be perfectly functional, but they are good institutions), but there are a lot of us who are as much against big government as big business Hypocrites like this make any reasonable political debate next to impossible.

9/30/2009 11:00:20 PM



From the FAQ:

"Additionally, religion is technically not even a pre-requisite for this, although blind adherence to its ideologies (and those of politics) is perhaps the #1 source of fundies in the universe. Rigid, arrogant, "know-it-all-and-confidently-force-it-on-everyone-else" authoritarian strains of both amplify the propensity to fundyism..."

Look, all you guys repeatedly bleating "This isn't fundy!" on every damn post, read the fucking FAQs! It doesn't have to be religious to be fundy. And the rigid, arrogant, etc parts certainly seem to apply to this one.

In addition, I certainly hope that you complainers are in on helping decide which quotes end up here. If not, stick a sock in it.

In further addition, I come here for a laugh as much as anything. I usually get laughs *and* food for thought. The "not fundy" bleating is neither funny nor thoughtful, and quite frankly gets in the way of enjoying both quotes and responding comments. If you don't think it's fundy enough, just move on to another quote, for crying out loud. Nobody says you have to read and/or respond to everything.

Sheesh.

10/1/2009 2:41:44 AM

louislois

Wow.... Just wow!

These people b!tch and moan when little kids sing about Obama in an elementary school, but apparently outright lies and brainwashing children to their beliefs are okay?

Oh the irony!!!

10/1/2009 5:49:35 AM

JT

>>>Look at the conservative home schooling movement.

You mean the ones that have better test scores than public school kids? I wouldn't homeschool my kids but our public school system is so fucked up I wouldn't count it out.

10/2/2009 7:28:47 AM



However, in case you're wondering, we're in the middle of an economic crisis because of conservatism gone wild. Surprisingly, you ignore it.

3/10/2010 4:33:19 AM

PiGirl13

You are like an idiot who doesn't have a clue what liberalism is, but is trying to explain it nonetheless. You fail every time you try.

12/15/2010 11:02:01 PM

Professor M

Liberalism is socialism and marxism.

Don't I wish, at least on the former point. As a non-Marxist socialist, I wish we had as many socialists in the U.S. as we do liberals. Maybe we'd be able to get some form of politics beyond the "dichotomy" of suggesting that all power should go to the rich while the poor and working class starve and insisting that all power should go to the rich while the poor and working-class are handed a few crumbs and empty platitudes.

12/15/2010 11:29:26 PM

ThisTroper

Meanwhile, you morons make your 4 year olds suicidal and give PTSD to teenagers.

12/23/2010 4:38:03 AM

what???

First, I think it was Plato that said that government exists for the welfare of the people. And all those things liberals do? They wouldn't need to if conservatives would quit hoarding money for the few and oppressing the poor. Remember, it was your conservative president who caused the loss of millions of jobs, put alot of people and families in the streets, and caused the economy to go to hell, all so he could start a needless war. So, if I were you, I'd shut the hell up, because you look stupid when you open your mouth and speak.

12/23/2010 6:42:35 AM
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