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(The 72 virgins wouldn't be virgins anymore after the first night.)

they are always virgins
every time Allah make them virgins again

moonsun, City-Data 83 Comments [9/18/2009 7:24:58 AM]
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Rev. Dread

So, it's like Prometheus, hmm? Regrowing in the night so they can be ripped again in the day? Not very good for them.

Anyway, I would rather have 72 women who know what they're doing and are good at it rather then 72 women I would have to spend time teaching, let alone again and again every day.

9/18/2009 7:42:37 AM

Mookie Blaylock

Sex with a virgin is highly overrated. They don't know how to do anything and are generally a bore.

9/18/2009 7:42:59 AM

LadyJafaria

This is a known interpretation. It might not be phrased in the best way, but it's a known interpretation.

Not that there's no such thing as a fundie interpretation, but I am so fucking sick of veiled-racist Americans dwelling on the completely non-Quranic 72 virgins* like that's all you need to know about Islam. So don't even dare go framing the first person as rational when he's doing that. This is a fight between a fundie and a know-nothing who thinks he's so CLEVER and EDGY for pointing out a Flaw In Your Silly Belief System when the people who believe it at all don't believe it's a flaw because they believe it has explanation.

*I'll concede that beautiful attendants in paradise are mentioned. The number is apocryphal and traditional rather than purely scriptural, however.

9/18/2009 7:50:12 AM

muters

An eternity of broken hymens... hope for their sake they're not squeamish about blood.

9/18/2009 7:51:40 AM



Traits that can be bestowed or taken away are meaningful. (Or can be considered meaningful if you are so inclined.)
Traits that cannot are far less meaningful.

If you make virginity a trait which can be restored, the virginity of those 72 virgins in itself means absolutely nothing. It becomes an official title and nothing more: they're not really virgins, except they've been officially titled as such.

Way to undermine the whole issue.

9/18/2009 7:59:09 AM

EvoPagan

Not that there's no such thing as a fundie interpretation, but I am so fucking sick of veiled-racist Americans

I'm sick of every time anyone dares to criticize Islam, they get labeled a racist. Islam isn't a race. There are plenty of white American Muslims who believe the 72 virgins thing too. There are a lot of fucked up beliefs in Islam, whether they come out of the Koran or other holy writings, and they don't deserve any more respect than any other religion. I'm tired of the PC crowd that always defends Islam. Some people who practiced Islam did a pretty fucking awful thing eight years ago, and THEY are the reason that so many people fear and dislike the religion. Maybe it's time that Muslims ought to own up to that, rather than pulling the "how dare you say that about my religion" bullshit.

9/18/2009 8:02:59 AM

NecroVMX

How about 10 older broads that know what they're doing.

Who has time for 72 women anyway.

Also notice the Ko'Ran never states the virgins are FEMALE.

9/18/2009 8:03:31 AM

JohnTheAtheist

I keep doing that with my wife too. Its hot.

9/18/2009 8:03:45 AM

freako104

72 virgins? How many are women and how many are butt ugly?

9/18/2009 8:04:56 AM

Eden

Poor women

9/18/2009 8:06:11 AM

Caustic Gnostic

I like Robin Williams' take on it...72 Virginians, of the Revolutionary era, ready to kick ass.

9/18/2009 8:06:45 AM

Mister Spak

This is standard muslim theology. Not nutty by muslim standards. Of course that's still pretty nutty.

9/18/2009 8:09:01 AM

Clown

And he does it, get this, with MAGIC! /Batman animated mobster voice

9/18/2009 8:09:32 AM

Natalie

The fuck makes you so special that you deserve to reduce human beings to sex toys?

9/18/2009 8:18:44 AM

Mr Blur

And of course it's not about (mutual) physical enjoyment it's about power and ownership. Rape, in other words. Muslim fundies are just as obnoxious as Christian ones. More, in some ways. Their colour or race has nothing to do with despising them and their ignorance.

9/18/2009 8:22:04 AM

Woody

This is a known interpretation. It might not be phrased in the best way, but it's a known interpretation.

So what?

The fact that some people interpret something a particular way and it is known that they do so, that makes it a known interpretation. That doesn't mean others cannot disagree or consider that interpretation of any religious text daft or fundamentalist, however badly expressed. There are plenty of poorly expressed (and poorly thought through) interpretations amongst fundies.

9/18/2009 8:23:17 AM

breakerslion

I'm pretty sure this was a mistranslation. I think what was promised was a 72-pound Virginia ham. That way, the faithful could see what they were missing all the years they subjected themselves to the "Simon says" prohibition based on Iron-Age ignorance of trichinosis. Let the sectarian violence begin!

9/18/2009 8:28:08 AM

Wooflang

Dictionary.com defines the noun, "virgin" as "a person who has never had sexual intercourse" or "an unmarried girl or woman".

If you're referring to the first definition, then Allah cannot possibly make them virgins again; one cannot undo past experiences. However, if you're referring to the second definition, then your statement is reasonable. I assume, though, that you were speaking of the former.

9/18/2009 8:29:31 AM

Nathan the Wise

... or raisins. It could be raisins.

9/18/2009 8:32:11 AM

Quantum Mechanic

I'll take two pros, please.

9/18/2009 8:52:56 AM



True Blood explained this. It just grows back because vampires heal.

It is now clear that they will have 72 virgin vampires killing them for the rest of time.

9/18/2009 8:53:44 AM

Table Rock

I like Jeff Dunham's alter ego Walter's take on it:

"I gotta teach 72 people how to have sex? Sounds more like a punishment to me. 72 virgins... Why not 72 slutty broads who know what the hell they're doing?!"

9/18/2009 8:57:40 AM

szaleniec

@EvoPagan: Yes, I love how people trying to demonstrate how enlightened they are end up falling headlong into the "all Muslims are Arabs" fallacy which a minute with Wikipedia would tell them isn't the case.

9/18/2009 9:06:28 AM

Doctor Whom

I don't know about virgin women, but I have been with a virgin gay man, and 72 of them would be Hell, not Heaven.

9/18/2009 9:10:46 AM

Doubting Thomas

Yeah, 72 virgins. Ahmed gets to heaven and finds himself at a Star Trek convention...

I agree, I'd take 10 hot experienced chicks over 72 virgins any day. Virgins are OK if you're just looking for a conquest, but I'd rather have a girl who knows how to please a man. And none of that "Eww, I don't want that icky stuff to come out!"

Seriously, how can someone be a virgin after having had sex? You need to look up the definition. Now maybe if they rotated virgins, like have sex with one girl and then she leaves and another virgin takes her place. But you wouldn't be able to teach them how to please you.

9/18/2009 9:12:19 AM
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