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Nathan the Wise
Oh, yes, the USSR did indeed have agents working in the US in the 40s and 50s. And Joe McCarthy and all his minions didn't find a single fucking one of them.
9/20/2009 3:53:01 AM
You sound a lot like a witch/communist/cylon/the thing.
I'll get the flame thrower.
9/20/2009 3:54:03 AM
Nathan the Wise
How did that DP?
Anyway, I went and read some of that Moonbattery site. It fancies itself as a sort of mirror site to Right Wing Watch, but the only message you get from it is We Hate Everyone Who Isn't One Of Us. It reads rather like a convocation of sulky teenagers, complete with the obligatory use of 'funny' names for all percieved enemies. Yeah, that's really going to sway the middle ground and pull in more Republican votes in 2012.
9/20/2009 4:00:07 AM
And yet McCarthy was completely unable to show that these hordes of subversives existed.
I wonder why that was?
9/20/2009 4:58:48 AM
Political ideologies don't kill people. People kill people.
9/20/2009 5:19:38 AM
Yay for historical revisionism. Yay for baseless accusations and witch hunting. Yay for not actually doing anything to prevent spies.
9/20/2009 5:29:07 AM
McCarthy was to counter-intelligence what a snail is to the 100m sprint.
Edit: and Stalin was bad, but he didn't kill 100-200 million people. How do we know this? Because there'd be hardly anyone left in Russia if he had.
9/20/2009 5:38:47 AM
Massive history fail.
9/20/2009 5:51:50 AM
Not fundie. Perhaps we need a new page for Republicans?
9/20/2009 6:07:19 AM
How many times do you have to repeat the same thing:
Believing that some of the tenets of Communist theory have merit, is not the same thing as supporting the old Soviet Union.
The Republican Party for, depending on the vantage point you want to take defined themselves as being "not those godless commies" from either the 1920's or the 1950's through the collapse of the Soviet Union. Quite frankly, this is the problem with the Republican Party today: now that they've been without someone to define themselves as "not," they're just basically searching for a real definition. And by aligning themselves with the Religious conservatives who had the biggest problem with the godless aspect of the communist POV, that's basically all they've got left.
9/20/2009 6:28:17 AM
and communism is such a threat because....?
In its purest form it teaches equality sharing and unselfishness. As opposed to the capitalism that has brought global financial meltdown....
9/20/2009 7:10:49 AM
McCarthyism was more communist like then the current goverment. They in fact can't see how limiting beliefs, banning different political ideaology and persecuting people for things they might do (under the flimsy evidence or historical trends) is a communist process.
McCarthy, his goons and the goverment that allowed this witchhunt were the enemies of freedom
9/20/2009 7:20:46 AM
"Thanks for comparing me to the Great Joseph McCarthy. I take it as a compliment."
You like being compared to a blustering alcoholic who used the communist witch hunt to save his faltering senatorial career? Here's a tip; don't try and humiliate the US army like your hero did when he discovered he had to escalate things in order to keep his audience.
"WE ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE WRONG. END OF STORY."
And if we don't agree, you'll throw a huge tantrum, got it.
9/20/2009 7:21:16 AM
Nearly everyone who was accused of having ties to Communism by McCarthy did indeed have such ties.
There's no law in the US against being a communist, and never was. The issue isn't whether someone was a "communist", but whether they had ties to the Soviet Union. And McCarthy didn't find shit about that.
9/20/2009 7:22:53 AM
Jezebel's Evil Sister
"WE ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE WRONG. END OF STORY."
Time-saving tip: Make that your signature line on all forum posts and have a rubber stamp of this statement made for all your off-line correspondence. Then, you'd never need to write another word since this is all you have to say to "win" every argument (in your own mind), no matter the subject.
And that attitude, my friends, is the very essence of fundyism.
9/20/2009 7:31:49 AM
So, let's repeat witch hunt, shall we? I kinda have an eye on my neghbour's house and on my other neighbours big LCD TV...
9/20/2009 7:35:29 AM
Everyone in congress thought Joseph Mccarthy was crazy.
9/20/2009 8:53:38 AM
Somebody had nuclear weapons aimed at American cities! OMG! Tell me it's not true. It's a good job that America is so righteous and wonderful that they didn't have any nuclear weapons of their own aimed at other countries, or a proven track record of actually using them.........Oh sorry, I seemed to have briefly visited fantasy world there. It's Ok, I'm back in reality again. Maybe the denizens of moonbattery would like to join me ?
9/20/2009 9:11:41 AM
McCarthy was a complete ass and I'm ashamed to come from the same state as him.
I've noticed that every time I see a phrase like "WE ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE WRONG. END OF STORY." it's always included in a lame, retarded or just plain wrong argument. I get similar results with "I calls 'em like I sees 'em" and "I just call a spade a spade."
9/20/2009 9:29:09 AM
You're an a**hole, ignorant AND an idiot. Congrats! You've hit the Moonbattery trifecta.
9/20/2009 9:30:05 AM
I associate McCarthy and Stalin and Torquemada. they just seem to fit together so well. Except that McCarthy was ultimately unable to substantiate his claims and enede up being hauled over the coals bye US Senate. Even so, he acted as jusdge and jury and destroyed the lives of his immediate victims and hthis had a knowck-on effect on their families. He was an evil bastard.
9/20/2009 9:43:57 AM
Ok, what I don't get and what I see in this very post, is the cognitive dissonance one has to have to say "YAY JOE MCCARTHY!" for rooting out those godless heathen commie bastards and then saying in the same breath "BOO STALIN!" for killing those heathen commie bastards. Really, by your own "commies = evil enemy" how is it that it's bad when they kill each other off but fantastic when we kill or imprison them?
9/20/2009 10:26:32 AM
Hi Refuter of Liberal Vermin, if it's compliments you like, I've got some more for you, similar to the comparison of you with McCarthy. You are comparable to a psychopathic mental case. You are comparable to a rabid abomination. You are comparable to a barrel of festering slurry.
There you go, hope you enjoyed those comparisons too, there is really no need to thank me. Let me know if you want some more. It's my pleasure to provide them.
9/20/2009 10:36:51 AM
Sure, blacklisting people you don't like with the excuse of communism is a great way to run your country. Sorry, that stinks of tyranny, and I won't stand for it.
9/20/2009 10:40:57 AM
McCarthy said that Pete Seegar is a Communist.
Jonny cash said that Pete Seegar is one of the most patriotic Americans he has ever met.
McCarthy liked Jonny cash, thought he was a
A problem there?
9/20/2009 10:41:35 AM
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