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[Commenting on New York Penal Law Section 165.35, which forbids conducting exorcism for money, which the topic starter describes as the "demon freedom act"]

our world is very strange and run by brainless people. or poor excuses of people.

how could it be illegal to get rid of evil spirits or demons , it sounds like the government is being run by a demon. you can legally evict a person but not a demon? they are playing favorites.

the world is too odd today. not enough faith, too much science based on nothing. science itself dosnt exhist without god or spiritual reasons behind it.

what do you think of that loser machine they tried to build last year, the one where scientist think they will prove if god exhists or not? i think its an insult to society and its another tower of babel.lets build a tower to see of we can see god. they are always trying to "see" good. but you cannot. who gave them the eyes to see? how about that
yea god did. the machine broke and they are spending billions of dollars on it, on a silly expereiment that might end the world or exhistence. there is no chance of a black hole, i think there will be one or whatever can happen. it has never turned out well in the bible when people tried to test if god is real

what do they think they are trying to do, prove that their science theory is right and then what? institutionalize every person who attends a synagogue, mosque or church for "delusional thoughts". i honestly think the scientists there need an exorcism.

the machine i was talking of was the large hadron collider aka large hell creator

mitty, Ministering Deliverance 67 Comments [9/20/2009 3:52:43 AM]
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Godbuster

You're just butthurt because you're not allowed to make money with your bullshit.
Why don't YOU build a Large Hadron Collider and then we'll talk.

9/20/2009 4:01:22 AM

timjamiller

So...God is the Higgs Boson particle? I've never heard that interpretation of the Bible before.

9/20/2009 4:23:22 AM

solomongrundy

Demons don't exist. Taking money for 'exorcisms' is fraud and quite rightly illegal.

The next logical step would be to end religion's tax exemptions but I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.

9/20/2009 4:46:14 AM

Canadiest

Shouldn't your priests do exorcisms FREE as it's God work therefor their calling or job?

The fact they won't proves it's the all mighty dollar that rules their acts

9/20/2009 4:51:03 AM

jsonitsac

I imagine that the intent of this law, probably passed sometime in the 19th century, was to ensure that if people needed exorcisms they could get them even if they couldn't pay.

9/20/2009 5:16:18 AM

aaa

You speak english?

9/20/2009 5:40:27 AM

Mudak

There's all sorts of consumer protection laws out there, where people offer a meaningless "service" to gullible consumers. By passing a law that says you can't profit from it, that's simple consumer protection.

And New York, having been burned so badly in the Great Depression by the fraud that led to the stock market crash, is far more rigid than other states in their consumer protection laws... Some people in the financial industry argue that their laws are too strict, (and maybe they are), but this doesn't strike me as an example of that.

9/20/2009 6:19:18 AM

Tallyho

CERN is not interested in God(s). The purpose of the LHC is not to disprove God(s). God is quite inconsequential to modern science.

Also a candidate for CTSTDT.

9/20/2009 6:24:32 AM

Lady Anne

We are often consulted by people, largely unconnected with any church or religion, to remove ghosts and demons from their property. We have never made any charge for this (not that we do the "bell, book and candle exorcism" stuff anyway) as we genuinely feel that that is part of the ministry of the church. (Whether I believe in demons in this sense or not has nothing to do with this - it is what others believe, and what helps them that counts!)

9/20/2009 6:31:14 AM

solomongrundy

^^^
That's a strange argument. If I believe there's a monster under my bed it's better to go along with the delusion and 'exorcise' it that show me it doesn't exist?

9/20/2009 6:44:28 AM

John_in_Oz

Any person who would refuse to perform an exorcism unless they got paid is an agent of the Large Hadron Collider.
Get into your exorcising now! See what you can do about the demons of stupidity.

9/20/2009 6:55:22 AM

Tamira

@ solomongrundy :
I think it actually might,if a person just won't accept that it does not exist.(Person could say: "the monster hides now so you can not see it, but later it turns up again." or even: "I feel it, it's not about seeing it, I KNOW it is there whatever you say.") - The delusional person would feel safe again and as it is not something done for money in the case of Lady Anne, it's not immoral. - the exorcism works as placebo for an overimaginative mind. Why not?

9/20/2009 6:58:58 AM

szaleniec

http://xkcd.com/637/

9/20/2009 6:59:28 AM

Horsefeathers

"our world is very strange and run by brainless people. or poor excuses of people."

I would agree. Unfortunately for you, you appear to not realize that almost exclusively those in power are religious to some degree.

"how could it be illegal to get rid of evil spirits or demons , it sounds like the government is being run by a demon."

It's illegal because demons don't fucking exist you jackass.

"you can legally evict a person but not a demon? they are playing favorites."

Isn't that a bitch? It sucks how those that actually exist get all the perks and benefits while all of the imaginary beings of the world get the shaft.

"the world is too odd today. not enough faith, too much science based on nothing."

Based on nothing? Says the guy who is typing on a computer that wouldn't exist without said science that's "based on nothing".

"science itself dosnt exhist without god or spiritual reasons behind it."

Yeah? Prove it.

"what do you think of that loser machine they tried to build last year, the one where scientist think they will prove if god exhists or not?"

The LHC has nothing to do with disproving your precious delusion.

"God particles" are not "particles that make up god" you blithering idiot. It's a sensationalistic name and nothing more.

"i think its an insult to society and its another tower of babel."

Then why did your omnipotent god allow it to be built?

"lets build a tower to see of we can see god. they are always trying to "see" good."

Nobody is trying to "see god" you moron.

"but you cannot. who gave them the eyes to see? how about that"

Very profound. If you're three. Or brain damaged.

"yea god did. the machine broke and they are spending billions of dollars on it, on a silly expereiment that might end the world or exhistence."

Yes, it "broke". So what? Lets see you plan and construct something even half as complex without any flaws or delays.

And no, it's not going to "end the world or existence".

"there is no chance of a black hole, i think there will be one or whatever can happen"

You don't even know what a black hole is, do you?

Nice way to cover your ass with the "or whatever can happen" line.

"it has never turned out well in the bible when people tried to test if god is real"

Your Wholly Babble is a book of fairy tales and bad poetry mixed with half-assed observations of history. I don't think I'm going to be too concerned with how things happened in your precious book.

"what do they think they are trying to do, prove that their science theory is right and then what?"

Then they'll find out what other questions it raised and look into those. That should keep them busy for a hundred years or so at the very least. Probably a lot longer.

Not only that but it's completely possible that new technologies that will directly affect you could come out of what's learned. It's happened before.

"institutionalize every person who attends a synagogue, mosque or church for "delusional thoughts"."

No. Just the raving lunatics.

"i honestly think the scientists there need an exorcism."

You know those raving lunatics I just mentioned...

"the machine i was talking of was the large hadron collider aka large hell creator"

Shut up.

9/20/2009 7:18:25 AM

John

I'm fine with them getting rid of the law. Let the fool and his money be parted. If we let people be entertained by sports and theater for money, why not let some fundie moron enjoy having his demons exorcised?

9/20/2009 7:18:35 AM

LadyJafaria

I guess they missed the for money bit. You can still get an exorcism that at best will have a psychosomatic effect, and you won't have to pay for it.

Good luck getting actual medical treatment if you can't pay though. But then, it's not like you think science will do you any good anyway.

9/20/2009 7:21:06 AM

Clown

God's work will be paid in full in heavens and shouldn't be payed for on Earth. God will provide, after all. :)
There, beaten by his own holly book. The rest is bullshit.

9/20/2009 7:25:02 AM

ConCat

Canadiest wins.

9/20/2009 7:46:20 AM



You mean to tell me that your god was incapable of creating hell on his own. GOD, what a whimp.

9/20/2009 7:53:57 AM

Mr. Creazil


9/20/2009 8:22:02 AM



Um it states, conducting exorcisms for MONEY. It doesn't say you can't conduct exorcisms, so your word salad means nothing.

9/20/2009 8:49:05 AM

Panz

You sound like you're a demon

9/20/2009 9:16:03 AM

Papabear

"i honestly think the scientists there need an exorcism."

I don't believe you really think at all, much less think honestly.

9/20/2009 9:27:25 AM

Xotan

Ignorant and idiotic.

@ Canadiest

The Dollar is mightier than the Demon - no?

9/20/2009 9:37:21 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

#1 - Demons and exorcism is bullshit, the people running the government understand that this is a scam, and they made the law to protect their citizens from being scammed by religious flim flam artists.
#2 - Just because you are ignorant and hateful of science doesnt make you correct or not a hypocrite. If you TRULEY hated science then what the fuck are you doing on a computer you fucking delusional douche bag. (Sorry, Im on this douche bag kick for some reason..LOL)
#3 - It is rude to toss a word salad like that without offering dressing and croutons..you do have plenty of cheese in that word salad.

9/20/2009 9:42:29 AM
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