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I listened to your entire ranting. I can’t help but wonder, why are you taking the time to do this? Are you afraid of death? Afraid of Christians? Afraid of God? What motivates you? Hate God if you must, that’s your right, but why hate the Christians. Aren’t they harmless? I know they used to be fed to lions, torn apart by teams of horses and suffered many other forms of death and torture, simply because they were Christians. I thought we were past all that. Do you want that to return?

cherokeenation, Discussion of All Things Spiritual 26 Comments [10/23/2009 4:25:29 PM]
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jc

except the Christians were the ones feeding the heathens to the lions, not other way around

10/23/2009 4:37:14 PM

Zeus Almighty

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -- Ghandi

10/23/2009 4:37:29 PM

Sisyphus

Wasn't it the christians drawing and quartering people for heresy?

10/23/2009 4:40:27 PM

Thinking Allowed

Let's see... Crusades, The Inquisition, the burning of witches, Westboro Baptist Chuch...

Oh and...


10/23/2009 4:48:13 PM

Eden

And as soon as christians became a dominant power in the roman empire (after Constantine) they began to kill and torture other people to death (especially "heathens" and other forms of christianity [like gnosticim for example])

10/23/2009 5:15:24 PM

Canadiest

"Are you afraid of death?"

Not fond of the prospect, but resigned to it as everyone dies, evewn Christians. Forever. You're memories in others minds

"Afraid of Christians?"

No. Afraid of what they'll do. They've done it before and many of them think they should keep doing it.

"Afraid of God?"

No. He doesn't exist

"What motivates you?"

Everything else when it comes down to it. You need a God to have a reason to live. I need people, interests. shelter and substanance

10/23/2009 5:25:43 PM

Doctor Whom

Aren’t they harmless?

Unless you mean that rhetorically, I think we all know what the answer is.

10/23/2009 5:32:04 PM

Mudak

Cue Holly Near.

http://www.hollynear.com/media/mp3s/i.ain't.afraid.mp3

I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

I ain't afraid of your churches
I ain't afraid of your temples
I ain't afraid of your praying
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

verse
Rise up to your higher power
Free up from fear, it will devour you
Watch out for the ego of the hour
The ones who say they know it
Are the ones who will impose it on you

I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

I ain't afraid of your churches
I ain't afraid of your temples
I ain't afraid of your praying
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

verse
Rise up, and see /find/ know/ hear a higher story
Free up from the gods of war and glory
Watch out for the threats of purgatory
The spirit of the wind won’t make a killing off of sin and satan

I ain't afraid of your Bible
I ain't afraid of your Torah
I ain't afraid of your Koran
Dont let the letter of the law
Obsure the spirit of the your love--it's killing us

I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God

I ain't afraid of your churches
I ain't afraid of your temples
I ain't afraid of your praying
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your God


Money
Culture
Choices
I’m afraid of what you do in the name of your God

Sunday
Spirit
Teachers
I’m afraid of what you do in the name of your God

Sabbath
Borders
Dances
I’m afraid of what you do in the name of your God double

Children
Music
Stories
I’m afraid of what you do in the name of your God

Rise up to your higher power
Free up
Rise up to your higher power
Free up
Let's try to be highly evolved
I aint afraid


Copyright 2000 Hereford Music (ASCAP)
Use/Reprint by Permission Only.

10/23/2009 5:39:57 PM

Doubting Thomas

Christians harmless? Yeah right, when they want to do things like ban stem cell research, prevent certain people from getting married, force children in school to pray to their god, turn the country into a theocracy, ban teaching of evolution in favor of religious creationism, and trash the planet because Jayzuz is coming soon to take them away. Yeah, perfectly harmless.

10/23/2009 5:55:28 PM

John

why hate the Christians. Aren’t they harmless?

Christians per se are harmless. Evangelical Christians (or fanatics of any other religion) who try to push their beliefs into our laws and our schools, who don't respect a separation of church and state or believe God has given them permission to lie, cheat or kill are dangerous.

10/23/2009 6:11:55 PM

Dark_Lord_Prime

Am I the only one who sees the irony in someone calling themselves "cherokeenation" defending Christians?

10/23/2009 6:31:15 PM

Andrewcastle

well i, for sure, do not want the christian oscurantism and the holy inquisition back in these days...

and no... christian arent harmless... collective and voluntary ignorance is never harmless...

10/23/2009 7:06:20 PM

Zodiac

"Hate God if you must, that’s your right, but why hate the Christians. Aren’t they harmless?"

Gandhi called. He wants his irony meter repaired.

10/23/2009 7:12:18 PM

Vince

I hate both of you. The old self centered jackass who sits up there thinking himself real hot shit and demands that we all worship him. You for being his brainless, egotistical, annoying preachy fan club.

You have proven yourself one of the most, if not the most, violent religion on earth for 2000 years or so. We have many reasons to hate and fear you.

And we have many reasons to pity you, though your really pushing that one.

10/23/2009 7:18:16 PM

Ken

I wouldn't wish ingrained bigotry on anybody. I got that from Christianity and the Christians who taught it to me.

10/23/2009 7:47:15 PM

Orion

"Aren’t they harmless?"

Nobody is harmless.

10/23/2009 9:01:18 PM

misshani

With this quote sandwiched between two rantings from Navaros rejoicing that someone is burning in Hell as we speak, and that families that use IVF should be executed, my irony meter just exploded.

Want to know what frightens me? Not just the fact that Navaros is psychopathic, not just that the Bible encourages such mentality, but that the Bible commands nothing less of its followers. Navaros' ideals are perfectly true to scripture. To the letter.

People like cherokeenation like to convince themselves that the Navaroses of the world are rare aberrations of Christianity. They're not. That's what's scary.

10/23/2009 9:50:09 PM

GodotIsWaiting4U

inb4...dammit, Thinking Allowed, you beat me to it.

10/23/2009 9:56:55 PM

aaa

Harmless? No.

10/24/2009 3:00:11 AM

The L

He is right that the Christians nowadays are mostly harmless.

After all, only about 20% of America's population believes the average quote here. Hell, probably less in most cases.

@jc: No, the Christians were fed to the lions. Then the Christians burned their own heretics at the stake and such. And don't get me started on their 2000 years of antisemitism that culminated in the Holocaust.

10/24/2009 6:06:10 AM

Dr. Shrinker

If Christians are harmless (that is, unable to torture and execute people who disagree with them), it is only because free-thinkers have fought to make them so. It was free-thinkers who gave us our modern scientific, social and cultural advances. Christians, by contrast, gave us the Dark Ages, the crusades and the inquisitions.

I'd tell you which group motivates me, but I don't think you really care to know.

10/24/2009 7:11:23 AM

Caustic Gnostic

I notice how the god of Abraham adores genocide. I notice that groups of jazzed-up abrahamites on the street are indistinguishable from rampaging mobs.

@Dark_Lord_Prime, that bit of irony struck me as well.


10/24/2009 8:30:42 AM

Clown

*Sad sigh*

10/24/2009 10:26:04 AM

Porter

Christians aren't harmless if they can make up an ignorant and opinionated majority with plenty of politcal muscle...

10/24/2009 8:09:15 PM

John_in_Oz

We'd just prefer you grew up.

10/25/2009 4:06:03 AM
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