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[What are your arguments exactly to support fascism? What do you call fascism exactly?]

i didn't read a bunch of technical jargon and hot air on the subject so i can't answer in a "formal" way but here's the way i see it:

the average person is a blithering idiot. so why then, would it make sense to have a mob of blithering idiots elect a government???! these blithering idiots are naturally going to elect a government which is also full of blithering idiots! is that "progress"? i say not.

think of Facism as a game of "Lemmings". the average person is a Lemming. The Facist Leader is the guy who controls the Lemmings for their own best interests to be met (ie: the "player" in a game of Lemmings).

better to have a genius who knows what he's doing take control of the blithering idiots and tell them what's good for them, since he knows better what is good for them than they do, because they are blithering idiots.

secondly, one thing the Bible says is true which can basically be summed up as: "All men are born evil". since all men are naturally evil, if given the opportunity en massse, they will naturally elect an EVIL lot of blithering idiots to make their laws. this results in the immoral cesspool-esque society that is now North America. if one righteous man takes charge, he can purge much of this evil away from the society and make it somewhat moral. you may say, "but the man in charge would be evil, too!" and yes that is true to some degree; but a smart, devoted man with strong convictions is still far less evil than your Average Joe Blithering.

Navaros, FED2k 38 Comments [10/23/2009 11:25:26 PM]
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The WHHAAAMMMM Burglar

Using the bible to justify things =/= validity

10/23/2009 11:26:52 PM

Vesper

Should have stopped reading at "i didn't read" but I didn't. Now my brain hurts.


So, one man elected by the populace is fascism...

...and you propose to defeat fascism by one man "taking charge" by assumed divine decree...

GET THEE TO A DICTIONARY!

10/24/2009 12:13:22 AM

Wehpudicabok

He's not calling Obama a fascist, guys. He's saying fascism is good. He is explicitly endorsing Christofascism. No rebuttal is necessary on my part; his argument essentially kills itself.

10/24/2009 1:02:07 AM

Eden

the average person is a blithering idiot. so why then, would it make sense to have a mob of blithering idiots elect a government???! these blithering idiots are naturally going to elect a government which is also full of blithering idiots!

Considering the fact that the american voters reelected Bush for a 2nd term, I have to conclude that Navaros is correct here ;)

One has to wonder, why Obamawas elected then, however...
maybe because this time the choice of the Republicans for their candidates for vice-/president convinced even blithering idiots that a republican government would be harmful for the nation.

10/24/2009 1:09:24 AM

Beeblebrox

i didn't read a bunch of technical jargon and hot air on the subject so i can't answer in a "formal" way...

Translation: I am entirely uninformed on the subject we are currently discussing.

10/24/2009 1:32:01 AM

Nathan the Wise

Ah, the old Benevolent Dictator argument. But if you grant all power to your dictator, without let or hindrance, you have effectively also granted the same power to his deputy ... and the deputy's deputies ... and so on right down to the cop on the street corner. Are they all benevolent, too?

10/24/2009 1:57:25 AM

apenpaap

Heh, reading the bible too much and playing too much flash games are a dangerous combination.

10/24/2009 3:09:41 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

You don't read much history, do you, kid?

10/24/2009 3:21:31 AM



> think of Facism as a game of "Lemmings". the average person is a Lemming. The Facist Leader is the guy who controls the Lemmings for their own best interests to be met (ie: the "player" in a game of Lemmings).

And hits the Armageddon button in the end to get rid of the lemmings he himself turned into Blockers.

I find the analogy particularly apt.

10/24/2009 3:27:08 AM



If everybody is an idiot, how can society work?. Don't project your problem on others.

10/24/2009 4:38:08 AM

Dexter

Is he one of the authors of Conservapedia?

10/24/2009 4:54:00 AM

RPJ

I agree with the first part. Except that usually only the most blithering of idiots is ever foolhardy enough to think running a country is a good idea. The ones who have a lick of sense find a more sane occupation. At least with elections, we get enough people to prevent most head-asplodingly stupid things.

An enlightened tyrant would overall be the best governor.

10/24/2009 5:04:28 AM

Orion

Democracy ensures that society is governed exactly as well as it deserves.

10/24/2009 5:41:04 AM

The L

This guy makes Hitler look like a free-love hippie by comparison. Hell, he makes Macchiavelli's "Prince" look downright nice!

10/24/2009 5:56:13 AM

Warlike1919

what the fuck?

10/24/2009 6:13:18 AM

muters

Who gets to decide who's the genius and give them their power, without the consent of the 'lemmings'? With Fascism, it's generally the most ruthless and sociopathic who force their way to the top, and they're unlikely to care enough about the Average Joe Blithering to waste an umbrella skill when he's approaching a sheer drop.

10/24/2009 6:30:46 AM

aaa

Yet another wannabe Mussolini.

10/24/2009 7:02:09 AM

Pule Thamex

The fatuous ideas and garbled thoughts of another blithering idiot who needs to be told what to do and how to think and how to live and how not to be evil. Navaros the below average blithering idiot expounds his idiotic views, views based, unsurprisingly, on his own stupidity and his own gullibility in desiring to live like an ancient middle eastern desert dweller and to follow the strictures in the book that extols the evil of the ancient middle eastern desert dweller's God.

10/24/2009 7:29:35 AM

Caustic Gnostic

I regard the sentiment of the last paragraph to be the root of christianoid insanity.

No, all menhumans are not born evil, or sinners, or what-have-you. The priesthood project their own personal sins upon all and sundry as camouflage.

10/24/2009 8:47:05 AM

The Mu

Gee, that would have made a lot of sense had you said it EIGHT YEARS AGO.

10/24/2009 9:13:20 AM

Clown

I'm stunned. Your stupidity stunned me. I hope you're happy now Navaros.

10/24/2009 10:21:45 AM



Typical FOX watcher, throws around the words fascism, socialism and communism but has absolutely no idea what they mean, especially when their own party is guilty of one of them.

He's right about the blithering idiots, though....if they'd gotten their way, we'd have President Palin.(((shudder)))

10/24/2009 11:36:42 AM

AuraTwilight

and lemme guess, you're the righteous man who should be in power, right?

10/24/2009 12:25:47 PM

Caretaker

Real tyrants =/= Vetinari. Also:

i didn't read.

Fixed it for you.

10/24/2009 12:28:36 PM

Vince

you know, this theory actually holds some water. but theories are treacherous dogs that will turn on you the second you let them off the leash.

this particular one falls apart when only one out of every 30 dictators or so does anything even remotely in the best interests of the people.

the other 29 have always been total jackasses.

when you compare that to democracy, which has the best track record out of any type of government in history, then you have to reconsider and start looking for where your theory went wrong.

10/24/2009 1:46:07 PM
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