Obama is determined to forge ahead with his agenda with or without the support of the people. In his socialist riddled mind, capitalism is evil and must be dismantled for the good of everyone.
It's so immature. I used to buy into some of the socialist arguments. But I was in my impressionable teens and once I got out into the world, I grew out of it. Obama has never grown up.
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Okay. We'll say it again.
Barack.
Obama.
Is.
Not.
A.
Socialist.
You people really need to meet some NDP types, especially the ones who get elected in rural ridings. Or urban ridings, whichever.
ahh, the old "When you are young and have a heart you vote democrat. When you are old and have a brain you vote republican"
It’s actually a rather well disguised Ad hominem
By no stretch of the imagination is Obama a socialist, he would be too far to the right to be electable in any European country (where Socialism is mostly dead in the water anyway).
Heck, these days the British Labour Party (nominally Socialist)is somewhere to the right of where the Conservatives were under Ted Heath.
Obama has never grown up.
Which is why he's President of the most powerful country the world has ever known while you whine on teh interwebs to a laughing-stock of batshit insane millennialist conspiracy theorists with persecution complexes...
"Obama is determined to forge ahead with his agenda with or without the support of the people. "
With or without? Hold on a second. Didn't we have an election where he was elected as the next president after Bush?
I know, I know, you don't need to tell me how you think the election was stolen or about voter fraud in elections in general. I heard it from the other side enough for a political moderate like me to handle.
Besides, we should support the president in what he does no matter what. No? Well, try to remind yourself of that the next time a canidate you favor gets into office and you feel compulsed to say that whenever a political moderate or liberal says something critical about that incumbent president.
"In his socialist riddled mind..."
You wouldn't know socialism if it bit you on the face.
What I suggest you do is immediately stop using the services of the socialised police force, fire service and armed forces; ban - without delay - the socialised healthcare provided for US veterans and make them find insurance companies who will provide cover while taking into account their "pre-existing conditions".
If you truly believe in the wonders of capitalism, don't want to be guilty of rank hypocrisy and aspire to be more than just another internet big-mouth with an empty head, do this *now*. I dare you.
"the support of the people"
Obama:
365 EV
66,882,230 votes
53% of electorate
McCain:
173 EV
58,343,671 votes
46% of electorate
Democrats:
60 Senators (58 Democrats +2 caucusing Independents)
256* Representatives
28 Governors
Republicans:
40 Senators
177* Representatives
22 Governors
(*2 vacant seats in the House as of Sept. 21st per Wikipedia)
Pres. Obama current average approval rate (per Wikipedia listing several recent polls ranging from mid-September to this past Thursday, Oct. 22nd):
53%
Capitalism is going nowhere, and there's nothing wrong with injecting a little socialism into it. After all Canada and Western Europe are no worse for the wear, and Russia and China are only beginning to reap the benefits of a balance between the two.
Supposedly by January we're supposed to start seeing this economy really turn around, and I for one am looking forward to it. Then maybe I'll actually get to have some of that expensive wine and Bermuda vacations that a breeder in another post seems to think I'm enjoying on a daily basis.
Social democracy seems to work pretty well up here in the Great White North. None of our banks went under, and one of our major corporations (Magna) just picked up some of the scraps of one of your major corporations when it imploded (Opel/Vauxhall, the European branch of GM).
And let's not forget how much your previous administration put you in hock to the Chinese government. For all intents and purposes, Shrub sold the US to China to pay for his adventures.
"Obama is determined to forge ahead with his agenda with or without the support of the people. In his socialist riddled mind, capitalism is evil and must be dismantled for the good of everyone."
Well, he was voted in by a huge showing of public support. How do you account for the massive landslide he got, hmmmmmmm?
And I'd say that one of the reasons why Obama was elected was precisely to get revenge on the GOP, and your God Emperor of Fucking Up, George Dumbya Bush. Precisely because of his spending on two pointless wars, and his financial policies creating the dire economic straits your country's in right now. Obama merely inherited said fucked-up country, which he's trying to repair.
After what the Shrubster did, frankly Capitalism IS evil and must be dismantled for the good of everyone. Socialism. It works for much of Europe (certainly the Scandinavian countries), why not try it sometime, USA? It won't kill you. It certainly hasn't done we in the UK any harm. Three Letters: NHS.
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Oh well it's good this person doesn't live in Norway so he wouldn't have to see what a real socialist country is like.
Which is not a socialist country either but in their crazy eyes, it probably is.
No socialist country would be the home of the world's 36th largest privately owned corporation now would it?
See StatoilHydro for more details.
All polls show majority support for free healthcare. Only liars say otherwise.
What kinda crazy do you have to be to think that the fact that one illness (or just one long, expensive drawn out death)bankrupting the whole family is a good thing?
Your capitalist system is failing due to large mortgage non-payment mostly due to medical depts.
You idiots are voluntary fodder for the rich
News flash, he was elected by the people, and those who voted for him do support him, unlike you whiny losers.
Capitalist-authoritarian fundamentalism is still fundie. It has the most important feature -- complete denial of reality.
Conservative political fundies these days seem to be by far the biggest practitioners in the U.S. of the "relativism" they accuse everyone else of -- to them, it doesn't matter what Obama's actual (ragingly plutocratic and pro-corporate) policies are, if they don't like him then he must be a "socialist".
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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