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Ok, this is one of what I hope will be several succeful debate topics.

What you do is tell whether you think dragons did exist or might still exist. Don't just put: dragons are cool so they must have existed. Thats lame. Give reasons, any historical/Scientific/Religious evidence.


My side of the debate:

Dragons did exist, but are now extinct. My reasons for this are: In the age of dinosaurs, there were flying dinos and fire-breathing dinos, how hard would it be to have a fire breathing flying dino? (Because I think that that is was Dragions were: dinosaurs, I do not belive they were sentient. They may have been smarter than other dinos, but the were not sentient or have higher thought functions. There have been dragon carcasses found. There is a history channel DVD titled: Dragons, a fantasy made real. That I am baseing this piont on. In the book of Revalations, in The Bible, there is a beast described as looking like a dragon-ish creature, When Paul talks about Armegadon, he talks of: Beasts that spat fire... The Bible often uses real-world examples of things, personally, I think that Paul was trying to describe a modern tank, using a dragon as a simile.

Wylfgard Warrior, Saber-Scorpion's Lair Forums 60 Comments [10/27/2009 12:19:54 AM]
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Random Man

So, dragons must exist because why not? Also, citation needed on the fire breathing dino.

10/27/2009 12:22:24 AM

aaa

Yet another idiot who can't tell the difference between fact and fiction.

10/27/2009 12:28:06 AM

agentCDE

Have you actually seen the History channel special on Dragons? Clearly not. I did. IT WAS MAKE-BELIEVE. EVEN HISTORY CHANNEL LIKES FANTASY SOME TIMES.

10/27/2009 12:37:13 AM

Wehpudicabok

1) Dragons are real, just not the interesting kinds that we associate with the word.

2) The Bible is not useful evidence for any natural science.

3) You claim that "[t]here have been dragon carcasses found," but if you found one that supported evolution, you would burn it and wipe it from your memory.

Last, and most important:

4) CLOSE THAT DAMN PARENTHESIS!

10/27/2009 12:43:12 AM

El Zorro

So a speculative and fictive documentary and the Bible is your evidence for the existence of dragons?

Or is this guy a Poe?

10/27/2009 12:52:56 AM

CrazyHappyNinja

Yeah, totally because dinosaurs are dragons.

10/27/2009 1:15:00 AM

Atheismo

speaking of tea-bagging...


10/27/2009 1:16:54 AM

SleepNeed

Dragons did exist, but are now extinct.

Proof please.

My reasons for this are: In the age of dinosaurs, there were flying dinos and fire-breathing dinos, how hard would it be to have a fire breathing flying dino?

What? I've heard of flying dinosaurs like Pterodactylus, and Quetzalcoatlus but I have never heard of a fire breathing dinosaur. So tell me what it was called.

(Because I think that that is was Dragions were: dinosaurs, I do not belive they were sentient. They may have been smarter than other dinos, but the were not sentient or have higher thought functions.

Okay I still don't know what the hell your talking about when you said fire breathing dinosaurs. As for this sentence, without them existing then we can't determine brain size. Also why didn't you close that parentheses?

There have been dragon carcasses found.

Where?

There is a history channel DVD titled: Dragons, a fantasy made real.

The History Channel discussed how it might be, not how it is. History Channel sometimes deals in the hypothetical, and they said it was hypothetical many time throughout.

That I am baseing this piont on.

When you can't spell the words "basing" and "point", your argument looses a lot of credibility.

In the book of Revalations, in The Bible, there is a beast described as looking like a dragon-ish creature, When Paul talks about Armegadon, he talks of: Beasts that spat fire...

Ignoring the spelling and grammar mistakes in your writing of the phrase "Book of Revelation", there is no agreement on when it was written. Some say 2nd century AD, others say 70 AD. Not to mention that some people think it was written about the Roman emperor, Nero.

The Bible often uses real-world examples of things, personally, I think that Paul was trying to describe a modern tank, using a dragon as a simile.

What are some real world examples of things? I mean it fails at some pretty basic things, like claiming insects have four legs, calling bats birds and the like.

10/27/2009 1:40:10 AM

Tolpuddle Martyr


[size=35]Dinosaur![/size]

[size=35]Dinosaur![/size]

[size=35]Not a dinosaur![/size]

[size=35]Definitely not a fucking dinosaur![/size]

10/27/2009 1:57:22 AM

Haseri

Wow, this is all kinds of stupid.

Not to mention the biological impossibility of a) a six-limbed vertebrate evolving and b) something that big flying.

10/27/2009 2:41:54 AM

Nowonmai

Pass that joint, would you? And put away that AD&D book.

10/27/2009 2:44:22 AM

Max

Sorry WHAT THE FUCK have you been smoking?

Fire breathing dinosaurs? Prove it NOW!

10/27/2009 2:59:41 AM

Max

There have been dragon carcasses found. There is a history channel DVD titled: Dragons, a fantasy made real

Yes I saw that too. Its fiction.

10/27/2009 3:01:25 AM

Clown

"Dragons, a fantasy made real."

I would say it's other way around: A reality made fantasy.

Observe:




10/27/2009 3:03:41 AM

Eden

Fire breathing dinosaurs?

Would be cool if there had been any. Unfortunately I remember not a single scientific study that hints at some dinosaur species that might have had the ability to do such things (to be more exactly, I remember not a single species at all that would be able to do such things...the closest thing which would come to fire breathing would be the defense mechanism of the bombardier beetle)

Oh and nope, while "Dragons" was really nice, it was not a real documentary. Maybe they should have written in big letters on the screen that "This documentary is not based on reality", just in case it is watched by people like Wylfgard Warrior.
Obviously they put too muich thrust into their beliefs about the intelligence of people watching the movie.

10/27/2009 3:07:29 AM

RPJ

Androids did exist, but no longer do. My reasons for this are: a long time ago, there were people with wooden prosthesis (such as peg-legs), and people who had electrical wires instead of veins, so how hard would it be to imagine people with electrical wiring comprised entirely of wooden parts? (Because I think that's what androids were: wooden people, with psychokinetic powers. They may have been able to move some objects that normal people couldn't, but couldn't summon fire or cause an eclipse. There have been deactivated androids found. Find a show on sci-fi. That's what I'm basing this point on. In Isaac Asimov's book, there are things described that are similar to androids...and real-world things and places exist in other parts of his book. Personally, I think that Asimov was trying to describe the Internet, using wired people as a simile.

Hey, this is fun!

10/27/2009 4:03:30 AM

Orion

Think real hard: How would it be biologically possible for a creature to breathe fire at mofos at all? Let alone not burn itself or its environment to cinders.

10/27/2009 4:41:36 AM

Mister Spak

Dragons are definately real. The Harry Potter books say so.

10/27/2009 4:57:57 AM



*facepalm* That's a speculative fiction documentary, you idiot. They even SAY THAT in the show itself!

10/27/2009 5:24:15 AM



I hope will be several succeful debate topics.

Such promise of a fair and intelligent fight.

...dragons did exist or might still exist.

And such utter failure and disappointment.

10/27/2009 5:28:04 AM

nutbunny

"there were flying dinos and fire-breathing dinos"

Wrong!

10/27/2009 5:32:35 AM

observiNG

what is this i don't even

10/27/2009 5:35:51 AM

Hirsute_Nailbomb

what the fuck do tanks have anything to do with it?

10/27/2009 6:08:24 AM

The L

I believe that dragons exist as astral beings in another universe. Most people probably find this pretty silly.

But at least I'm not stupid enough to believe that someone has found actual dragon bones, and just called them "dinosaurs" for convenience.

10/27/2009 6:15:17 AM

Vince

Dragons.

because reality is boring.

10/27/2009 6:18:47 AM
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