No one really knows how the ancient Mayans got such accurate information that they could construct such a calendar without the modern observational equipment we have today. But we Christians mostly believe it had to be some kind of satanic or demonic influence.
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"Christians mostly believe it had to be some kind of satanic or demonic influence."
i am not a christian or a religious person of any kind, but i can safely call bullshit on this little nugget of fail and say that most christians do not believe this.
Satan had nothing to do with it, asshat. The Mayan astronomers were just much, Much, MUCH smarter than stupid fundies.
without the modern observational equipment we have today
Yeah, making a calendar is totally impossible. Well, unless you can measure the movement of the sun and the moon but that requires advanced technology, like a stick.
So, Satan gives us accurate information ... god wants us to be pig-ignorant, superstitious, groveling fudietards and even then will likely send us to hell to burn FOREVER because some people thousands of years ago ate an apple.
Hmmm, now which one of these two is evil, again?
They couldn't have come up with it by themselves because they weren't like us (if you know what I mean) (and I think you do) (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).
"How did they..."
"Demons! Black Magic!"
"But surely they..."
"No! MAGIC!"
No, actually the Mayans were excellent astronomers, their knowledge of the universe far surpassed that of the contemporary European nations. Seeing as there was no christianity to hinder them they became quite advanced in some aspects.
But yeah, we all know that to you satan= knowledge.
Hell, even the Babylonians could estimate the length of a year within seconds. Our calendar was basically inherited from the Romans. The Roman version was off by about a day every century and a quarter. Scientists knew about the error but it was largely Christianity that kept it from being corrected. Pope Gregory was finally convinced to order the fix, but even then, the Protestants objected as an attempt by the Catholics to trick them into worshiping on the wrong days, so although the Catholic countries applied the correction in the 1500's, Protestant countries took up to another two centuries. England (and America) didn't make the change until 1752.
Please, cut poor old Satan some slack. You people are always complaining about the guy, but he's just doing his job. If you don't like it you should go talk to his employer, God.
Math is hard, therefore it must be from the devil.
The sad thing is that despite living in primitive times those Mayan astronomers are way ahead of you.
The Mayans were quite advanced for their time. Not only were they awesome astronomers, they had a working sewage system. But of course to Rapture Retards view knowledge as a tool of SATAN!!!
See yogi3939 if you weren't a Rapture Retard you would know it doesn't take modern observational equipment to construct a calender.
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"No one really knows how the ancient Mayans got such accurate information that they could construct such a calendar without the modern observational equipment we have today. So I feel totally justified in pulling the most absurd, anti-Occam explanation for it right out of my ass."
Fixed.
PS: Similar to the way that the Mesopotamians, Babylonians, and Egyptians did it, most likely. Here's a clue: it helps to live in or near the Tropics.
Or they were smarter than Christians, or they didn't have an attitude against knowing things like,,,the Christians!
Or that they worshipped the sky and nature so paid more attention to real thing that actually happen
Your god won't even tell you what day it is, but it's the devil who shows how to construct a proper calendar? Maybe you have it all backwards and you've been worshipping the wrong guy for 2,000 years.
@Osiris and Serph-no-Okami: Of course. If lily-white European Christians made important scientific discoveries, it was by the will of God. If swarthy, heathen pagans made them, it surely must have been Satan's work! *eyeroll*
Actually, no "we Christians" mostly believe, "wow, the Mayans did some pretty impressive stuff!"
Its the tiny minority like you that believe only (white European) Christians could come up with any bright ideas without the Devil's support that make us all look like jerks.
Naturally, since them Aztec heathens had a much more advanced civilization than the primitive screw heads known as Christian Fundies.
[EDIT] @Apocraphy, it's actually;
Mayans 2
Christians 0
See, on top of advanced mathematics and astronomy, the Mayans also had sewers... something that Christians didn't discover until the late 1700s.
Observation over time and recording those events and applying a mathematical base for it isn't evil. It's knowledge. Days counted, changing seasons, changing Sun, changing Star-clusters, all easily noticed.
And by the way, childs play for Mayams, Egyptians, Greeks, Babylonians, Sumerians and the chinese but beyond the authors of the Bible
This is why I maintain that nature based religions are much more important to our history and society than Theistic ones. Being rooted to the actual world is the catalyst to scientific and cultural advance.
Then came those silly God religions to enslave and corrupt all.
Oh and "No one really knows how the ancient Mayans got such accurate information"
Yes they do, if we looked at that calender we'd be lost but archeologists, language experts and historians can decipher such things through years of study and collaboration.
This "No one really knows,, " shit is used by creationist all the time, mostly when refering to things that ARE KNOWN and varified by leading experts.
Fundie Clergy or prominate spokespeople are the last people you ask about anything, including the Bible, unless you like retarded answers like "some kind of satanic or demonic influence."
So innovation & technological thinking = demonic influence, eh?
Get rid of those computers then, Ruptured Retards. They were as a result of the construction of the first digital computer, Colossus, by the Atheist & homosexual Alan Turing.
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