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My remarks werent sarcastic they were truthful.Those costumes are what the shops here are full of. Yes I celebrate The birth of Jesus on Christmas day, and the resurrection of Jesus on Easter day. I am sure that you are now going to come back and tell me that they are the same as halloween, but Christmas and easter dont involve the evil things as hallowen does.Halloween is a special day for Satanists, devil worshippers and witches. People who used to be involved in these things and have become Christians will tell you this. The Bible warns us against such things, so why open the door for evil?

chosenone, Grace Centered Christian Forums 35 Comments [10/27/2009 3:22:59 PM]
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Berny

It's completely lost on you that those "Christian" holidays you celebrate had pagan origins isn't it?
Halloween is a contraction of "All Hallows Even", also known as the Feast of All Saints.
You should really try and learn something about the origins of your religion.

10/27/2009 3:26:10 PM

Horsefeathers

"I am sure that you are now going to come back and tell me that they are the same as halloween, but Christmas and easter dont involve the evil things as hallowen does."

No, they involve evil things like celebration of the winter solstice and a pagan goddess respectively.

"Halloween is a special day for Satanists, devil worshippers and witches."

Where, pray tell, did you hear this bullshit?

"People who used to be involved in these things and have become Christians will tell you this."

And people who have cracked a book other than the Wholly Babble will tell you that you're gullible and the ones saying such things are full of shit.

"The Bible warns us against such things, so why open the door for evil?"

I'd venture to guess you do quite a number of things the Bible warns against and completely ignore a number of things it commands you to do.

10/27/2009 3:34:01 PM

Zoo

Look up "All Hallow's Eve" and "All Saint's Day".

10/27/2009 3:45:02 PM

Doctor Whom

The Bible warns you against Christmas trees, too, but most fundies have elaborate rationalizations about how that part needs to be "interpreted correctly."

10/27/2009 3:55:39 PM

Old Viking

I open the door for evil to avoid property damage.

10/27/2009 5:27:20 PM

tracer

"People who used to be involved in these things and have become Christians will tell you this."


Funny how no one who ISN'T a Christian with an axe to grind will tell you the same thing, though....

10/27/2009 5:38:42 PM

tracer

Doctor Whom:

Wasn't there a time when Puritans banned Christmas celebrations because they weren't reverent enough?

10/27/2009 5:39:52 PM

louislois

You say that as if you never learned that both Easter and Christmas have Pagan roots and were adopted and and changed by the later Christians.

Oh wait!

10/27/2009 5:45:49 PM

Vince

and once again.

THAT'S WHAT JACKOLANTERNS ARE FOR!

10/27/2009 5:46:07 PM

Drax

You know, I'm not a pagan or anything, but as I understand it the old Celtic festival of Samhain was simply a harvest festival and a time to remember the dead. I always make a point of lighting a candle on that day in memory of friends and family who have died, just marking an ancient tradition in my own way. Does that make me a devil worshipper?

10/27/2009 7:35:17 PM

Sagans Ghost

Do you think someone should tell 'em about 'Saturnalia'???

10/27/2009 7:51:35 PM

Frogflayer

I think the latest Jesus and Mo pretty much covers it http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/10/27/door/

10/27/2009 9:42:30 PM

aaa

And?

10/28/2009 1:01:09 AM

werewolf

Dressing up in costumes and receiving candies from neighbors one evening a year is evil? Who do you think you are? The American Dental Association?

10/28/2009 1:27:06 AM

nishikaze

Most intelligent Christian scholars will agree that Christ WAS NOT BORN on Dec 25, but rather (as is many other Christian traditions and holiday) celebrated over a PAGAN holiday to make the transition to Christainity easier for early converts. Christmas was chosen because of an existing Roman holiday Dies Natalis Solis Invicti and Winter Soltice.

10/28/2009 3:19:53 AM

Mister Spak

"People who used to be involved in these things and have become Christians will tell you this."

That only proves there were, and still are, delusional.

10/28/2009 5:38:22 AM



All Hallows Eve. The day of all saints. Are you telling us that Satan is a saint now?

10/28/2009 6:20:41 AM

Shann

People who used to be involved in these things and have become Christians will tell you this.

As someone who used to be christian and is now a happy Pagan, I'd like to inform you that you are undeniably wrong.

Also, your mother's a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

10/28/2009 6:59:46 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

The thing is, though, that those Satanic meanings and whatnot are attached to it AFTER the fact BY the Satanists in question.

10/28/2009 9:44:25 AM

Semi-Christian

Does this person even realize what Halloween is for? Do they understand the idea is to scare away bad spirits?

Whatever, they redefined Christmas/easter/etc, so I guess they can redefine this crap as well.

10/28/2009 10:40:01 PM

Pule Thamex

Hallowe'en is a remembrance day when we reflect on the horrific crimes of God. We recall the genocides and the infantile tantrums when we see children dressed as ghouls and ghosts and we remember the criminal actions of God's earthly hoodlums when we see the children dressed as witches. We must never forget the terrible plight of those that fell prey to the tyrannical God and His blood-crazed so-called followers. The pitiful screams of the dying victims remain uppermost in our thoughts on Hallowe'en.

10/29/2009 3:11:57 AM

Atheismo

For Frogflayer.


10/29/2009 4:15:45 AM

Clown

LOl.

10/29/2009 5:14:18 AM

Xotan

Halloween (Samhain - NOT pron Sam Hane, but Saah-win) is the Celtic New Year. It marked the end of summer and the growing season, harvest in and a time when animals over and above the need were slaughtered and preserved to provide food over winter. It also marked the setting in of the long winter nights in northern latitudes.

On a spiritual level it was held that the veil between the here and now and the 'other' world was at its thinnest.

It has nothing to do with Satan or Witches. There were not around then, and were completely unknown to the ancient Celts. Latterly they have taken an interest in the festival and may even be said to have taken it over in some respects, thereby causing confusion - just as Christians tried to Christianise it as All Saints.

Happily, in my country it still survives in folk traditions that have nothing to do with Satan or Witchcraft, or even Wicca.

10/29/2009 7:12:46 AM

Elphada

*sigh*

One more time: Christmas = Winter Solstice. Easter = Oestra. Christianity fused their celebrations with pagan festivals to make Christianity more palatable to the masses as conversions weren't numerous. I could care less about what they did but so many of you fundies think those holidays are of pure Christian origin. Try looking at the symbols for these days. How about return of the sun/son? Ring a bell? Halloween is not demonic. It's called Samhain and is our New Year. Please read something about the Celts. Not the pro-basketball one.

10/31/2009 9:39:15 AM
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