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Derry City Council's Hallowe'en carnival encourages Satanism and has brought a curse on the city, according to a Methodist minister.

Rev Jonathan Campbell, from Newbuildings Independent Methodist Church, has launched an online petition to stop this year's event.

He said Hallowe'en celebrations "make evil look innocent", and has appealed for families to boycott the festival.

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Rev Campbell said his church was opposed to Hallowe'en because it was "one of the two major days for Satanists", and "God's word clearly condemns and warns people about celebrating or glorifying Hallowe'en or the occult".

"One of the main reasons we as a church are opposed to the carnival is that children are being disturbed.

"People are being deceived - they look on it as harmless fun, but it isn't.

"We are doing this because we care for the people of Londonderry and this is harming parents, children, families in Londonderry," he said.

Rev Jonathan Campbell, BBC News 83 Comments [10/27/2009 6:44:31 PM]
Fundie Index: 58
WTF?! || meh

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myheadhurts

What's the other Satanic day?

10/28/2009 11:03:59 AM

AuraTwilight

Please explain how Halloween isn't harmless.

10/28/2009 11:09:52 AM

evilred

If Halloween is the biggest worry this guy has he must really lead a charmed life. :/

10/28/2009 12:06:55 PM

HH's Mum

1) Don't blame the English for this one. Northern Ireland's Proddie fundamentalists are usually of Scots descent - and his name's Campbell.
2) Hallowe'en is how we spell it (All Hallow's Eve / Eve of All Saints)
3) May Day/ Beltane is probably the other "Satanist" party day. (Satanists= Trade Unionists= Communists = Mariolators)

10/28/2009 12:30:21 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Buy a brain.

10/28/2009 12:40:27 PM

Old Viking

Despite this warning I intend to once again strip naked, put a raisin in my navel, and go door-to-door as a sugar cookie.

10/28/2009 1:34:44 PM

Misty

..Hey uh, what's the 2nd major day for Satanists? I'd hate to miss it, see...

10/28/2009 1:39:05 PM

breakerslion

@ Misty:

HH's Mum nailed it. May Day, a.k.a. Beltane, a.k.a Rites of Spring. It's eeeevul 'cause of all the fertility stuff associated, like rabbits and eggs, and ... Oh wait....

10/28/2009 1:44:17 PM

Dagon

what happened to your all powerfull god? he can´t protect you from this?

oh! I forgot. God is a lie. or a zombie.

10/28/2009 1:55:25 PM

Zodiac

"God's word clearly condemns and warns people about celebrating or glorifying Hallowe'en or the occult."

O RLY?!?

BTW, Halloween was originally a Christian celebration adapted from some Celtic(?) tradition to mark the beginning of winter. Do your research.

10/28/2009 2:47:12 PM

Scooby71

Repost somehow

10/28/2009 3:14:51 PM

hmcook87

Happens evey year... I guess the "halloween is evil" campaign serves as a good warm up for those participating in the big "put Jesus back in Christmas" event.

10/28/2009 5:36:57 PM

Moondog

Derry and Londonderry are in New Hampshire, as are Antrim and Dublin. Belfast is in Maine, and is my home away from home.

10/28/2009 6:09:16 PM

arcturus

hey fuckwad, as soon as intolerance such as yours fucks off, the bombs and murders in NI will miraculously disappear!

10/29/2009 2:08:22 AM

Xotan

Just back from a trip to Germany (and wrecked after the drive). There I saw lots and lots of Maypoles... Could this mean the dreaded curse of <whispers> fertility???????????

Campbell. Yes it's Scottish - from the Gaelic (heaven forfend! Mr. C would like to be considered British - by which he probably means English), but his name cannot help. In Scots Gaelic it's 'Cam Beul' and means 'crooked mouth', which is entirely appropriate. Mr. C probably doesn't know this. Nor will he know that in the sister language, Irish Gaelic, it's 'cam beal'. In fact, he probably doesn't know that either of these languages exist.

Also, living in Northern Ireland, he also, likely, doesn't know that Ireland comes from the ancient Celtic goddess of sovereignty Eriu - who gave her name to the land. In modern Irish it's Eire. The 'land' bit was added by heathenish Scandinavians, who tagged it onto the Goddess's name.

So Mr. C is fu'*ked whichever way he turns.

And for those who are not schooled in Celtic languages, please note:

Samhain is not syllabified Sam-hain, with a pronounced 'h'. It's Samh-ain, and the pronunciation is Saah-win, with the accent on the first syllable.

Likewise Bel-tane is an abomination that Leviticus forgot! It's pronounced B(y)aal-tin-neh - the (y) is a iotising glide.

So, next person who dares to say Sam Hane and Bell Tane gets a Puca (Pooka) in the post. I might even send one to Mr Crookmouth right away! That'll teach him!

10/29/2009 4:54:26 AM



Satanists have THREE days.

Halloween

Walpurgisnacht (April 30th)

and the individual Satanist's birthday -- after all, what's more important than the birthday of a god?

10/29/2009 5:22:10 AM

breakerslion

re. Walpurgis nacht:

Night of April 30th, Morning of May 1 ... see how that works?

10/29/2009 7:08:56 AM

skater12

Zimmer et al beat me to it. I had been hoping this was an American entry so I could snerk, but if it's Irish it's just not all that funny.

10/29/2009 8:21:11 AM

Caretaker

Okay, I don't have much to say to the quote ('cause I live in NI and deal with similar on a daily basis), but to the commenters:

Drop the word 'Irish', please. This is Northern Ireland and the quoter is almost certainly DUP (Loyalist) and therefore considers himself and all of NI to be British. Telling him the festival was originally celebrated by the Irish would just make him hate it more.

As to the person who said this was the (London/)Derry in Maine - as other posters have stated, it's not. Click the link.

Sorry for my snark, it's just quite sadz to see comments that haven't at least been acquainted with google. Normally, everybody has a fair idea of the background behind a quote or country. Of course, a ton of people have covered this already ;]

Xotan - I frickin' love you. I almost died watching an episode of Supernatural where they perpetrated "Sam-hain" (even calling the Demon of the Week Sam Hain). You ready the puca, I'll get the Bean Sidhe :D

10/29/2009 8:57:15 AM

/)ø(/à

Im guessing someone never went trick-r-treating when they were younger.

Feel bad for him....

10/29/2009 11:03:48 AM

Rambler

@CailinBan
But don't you know Pagan= Teh Devil

10/29/2009 11:15:21 AM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

Hallowe'en has pagan roots. Freedom of religion, remember? People can celebrate Hallowe'en because technically it's religious in nature :P

Atheismo: Hallowe'en is a contraction of Hallow's Eve, so the apostrophe is supposed to be there, though that's beginning to change so that it's acceptable to write it without the apostrophe.

ETA: There's one biblical quote that might apply to Hallowe'en being evil:
Jeremiah 10:2-4 (New International Version)
2 This is what the LORD says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter."
Admittedly this is about Christmas, not Hallowe'en, but the part "For the customs of the peoples are worthless" could be applied to any ritual people from another place or religion have. Considering how fundies normally twist the Bible to fit their own ideals, this is actually a fairly sane interpretation.

10/29/2009 11:22:44 AM

NonProphet

...Wait, do Satanists (who don't actually worship Satan, incidentally) even celebrate Halloween as anything other than a commercial dress-up-and-get-free-stuff day?

EDIT: Apparently, some of 'em do.

Of course, I also wasn't aware that the Bible mentioned Halloween. Must be one of those special Revised Fundie Version bibles, with all the secret extra bits fundies like to mention.

10/29/2009 1:59:30 PM

Shadoboy

Come on, the only reason you want it to be cancelled is because everyone eggs your house.

10/29/2009 2:04:02 PM

Thejebusfire

Rev Jonathan Campbell, from Newbuildings Independent Methodist Church, has launched an online petition to stop this year's event.


Look buddy, if you don't want to go to the halloween event, then don't go. But don't tell other people what they can and can't do.

He said Hallowe'en celebrations "make evil look innocent", and has appealed for families to boycott the festival.

No that would be the bible. That's what you need to boycott.


Rev Campbell said his church was opposed to Hallowe'en because it was "one of the two major days for Satanists",


So, whats this other day?

and "God's word clearly condemns and warns people about celebrating or glorifying Hallowe'en or the occult".

The bible does say something about the occult, but no where in does it say "thou shalt not celebrate halloween".

"One of the main reasons we as a church are opposed to the carnival is that children are being disturbed.

I grew up in with a christain mother. I also grew up celebrating halloween. I was never "disturbed" because of it.

"We are doing this because we care for the people of Londonderry and this is harming parents, children, families in Londonderry,"

Religion does more harm to families than any overly merchandised holiday ever could.

10/29/2009 3:04:07 PM
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