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==Moving the Goalposts==

Moving the goalposts is jargon used almost exclusively by evolutionists to decline to answer a question that is the logical next step in their argument. This next step is avoided by evolutionists by claiming that their critics are "moving the goalposts."

For example, Darwinists claim that asking how the theory of evolution explains the origin of life is "moving the goalposts," even though it is a logical question to ask.

Aschlafly, Conservapedia 45 Comments [11/24/2009 12:32:30 PM]
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Nathan the Wise

"There are no transitional fossils! Show me a fossil with the features of both reptiles and birds!"

*lists several dozen examples*

"Those aren't crocoducks!"

That, Assfly, is moving the goalposts. Whereas your example, isn't.

11/24/2009 12:39:21 PM

Doctor Whom

Fundy Word Redefinition Project:

fallacy, n. an embarrassing disproof of my position

logical, adj. conforming to what I want to believe

11/24/2009 12:44:47 PM


The purpose of evolution isn't to explain the origin of life, cockguzzler.

11/24/2009 12:50:42 PM


The ToE doesn't deal with abiogenesis.

The origin of life IS an interesting question, but just because science doesn't have all the answers concerning it doesn't mean the answer is a self-contradictory, ancient fairy tale.

11/24/2009 12:57:26 PM


No. Now where are my fries?

11/24/2009 1:05:31 PM

"Moving the goalposts is jargon used almost exclusively by evolutionists to decline to answer a question that is the logical next step in their argument."

Uh, no it isn't. It's an extremely common universal phrase which is used by or familiar to everyone with even a modest command of the English language.

11/24/2009 1:05:43 PM


Andy-boy once again dashes into his own end zone, then wails that someone must have moved the goalposts on him.

11/24/2009 1:08:24 PM

Caustic Gnostic

Sure, it's moving the goalposts. Abiogenesis is not even considered by evolutionary biologists. There is no evidence available from that epoch, only that there was a shitload of single-celled organisms for a long time.

11/24/2009 1:12:16 PM


People who study evolution are not trying to explain the origin of life.
Consider this;
People who work on cars are not trying to explain the invention of the wheel.

11/24/2009 1:14:58 PM


Andrew is still a big gay babby over those filthy commies using them big words and empirical evidences.

11/24/2009 1:15:11 PM


Except it ISN'T a logical question to ask, and it shows how little you actually know about evolution; the origin of life is a different branch of science. Evolution is biology and explains the diversity of life; the origin of life falls under chemistry, and isn't well-understood, though we are getting closer.

11/24/2009 1:16:25 PM

Here's some more jargon we evolutionists use: "You need a deprogrammer".

Your mother abused and brainwashed you, Andrew. Seek help.

11/24/2009 1:21:35 PM


It's logical to ask only if you don't know that evolutionary theory doesn't cover the origin of life.

"Moving the goalposts" is asking for something, getting exactly that, and saying "well that doesn't actually answer it, give me this now"

11/24/2009 1:27:03 PM

Big Jilm

It's a retarded question to ask since Evolution != origins of life ya dumbass knuckle-dragger.

11/24/2009 1:27:23 PM


Evolution doesn't explain the origin of life just like the theory of gravity doesn't explain the origin of gravity. We don't know the answer to the origin of either one.

BTW, that's not called "moving the goal posts"; it's called the "straw man argument":
(a) scientists discuss the evolution of species from common ancestors;
(b) creationists change the subject to the origin of life itself;
(c) creationists attempt to claim that if scientists don't know about the origin of life, their theories about the common descent of species must be wrong.

Actually, Creationists often confuse arguments about the validity of evolution with arguments about the existence of God. They argue as if all they need to do is argue persuasively for the existence of God and evolution will fall.

11/24/2009 1:30:23 PM


Someone needs to drop a goalpost on this guy, because he is guilty of doing so. He demands more proof than necessary for evolution, despite all of evidence that indicates it is a fact of life.

Andy, please read a book or use the internet for research rather than jerking off to porn and monitoring your joke of an "encyclopedia".

11/24/2009 1:30:24 PM

Old Viking

Well the answer should be simple enough even for you, Andy. Evolution doesn't explain the origin of life. It doesn't even address the subject.

11/24/2009 1:39:39 PM


"Darwinists claim that asking how the theory of evolution explains the origin of life is "moving the goalposts," even though it is a logical question to ask."

Yes. That's every bit as logical as asking how Einstein's Theory of Relativity explains why shit stinks. I see your point.

11/24/2009 2:23:32 PM


It is moving the goal posts because the theory of evolution doesn't explain how life began.

It's like asking a scientist to prove that gravity works and then after they show you how gravity works you ask them to explain how gravity explains the origin of gravity. Since they can't answer that you declare victory because they couldn't answer your dumb impossible question, even though they correctly answered the first one.

11/24/2009 2:31:00 PM



11/24/2009 2:39:46 PM


If you'd Googled the phrase before making your claim, you might not have made it. And that would have made you look less of a fool than you do. You'd have found that rather than being 'used almost exclusively by evolutionists' the phrase occurs only twice in that context in the top 22 listings.
It's use in that contxt is quite valid.

11/24/2009 2:44:21 PM

Vegetable Rights Activist

With all these quotes, my book is coming out more recently than I expected.

11/24/2009 2:58:41 PM


By golly, you're right.
The Theory of Evolution cannot explain the origin of life.

Also, the Germ Theory of Disease cannot explain the existence of Black Holes, so clearly that theory is bunk too.

11/24/2009 3:12:22 PM


"Moving the goalposts is jargon used almost exclusively by evolutionists..."
NO. It's when a tasks goal is changed midway through, either to try to obtain an advantage in an argument (and hence make said argument null) or to add extra scale/options to a specific project and create more work for them. The term is frequently used in the programming industry when project specifications continually change.

And, just so you know, your point is stupid, illogical, and floundering under self-importance

11/24/2009 4:01:49 PM

bbq burrito

Oh noes, he got you WMDkitty! I wonder who's next. I'm betting its godotiswaiting.

11/24/2009 4:05:46 PM

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