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Fearful that they could be forced, among other things, to extend employee benefits to same-sex married couples, church officials said they would have no choice but to abandon their contracts with the city.

"If the city requires this, we can't do it," Susan Gibbs, spokeswoman for the archdiocese, said Wednesday. "The city is saying in order to provide social services, you need to be secular. For us, that's really a problem."

Catholic Archdiocese of Washington D.C., Washington Post 42 Comments [11/24/2009 7:26:13 PM]
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dpareja

Yeah. It's called acting on behalf of the government and the First Amendment.

11/24/2009 7:43:46 PM

Doubting Thomas

Another reason I left the Catholic church and didn't let the door hit me in the ass on the way out.

11/24/2009 8:03:59 PM

WMDKitty

Colossal douchebags.

11/24/2009 8:25:57 PM

Doctor Whom

You mean that you don't get to take money from the taxpayers (including LGBT taxpayers) and spend it promoting your religion-inspired bigotry? It's persecution, I say! Persecution!

11/24/2009 8:28:07 PM



They do have a right to chose not to continue with contracts when they run out. In the meantime, if they're taking government money, they should be paying taxes just like the rest of us instead of enjoying their tax-exempt status.

11/24/2009 8:28:50 PM

Old Viking

Ah, the compassion.

11/24/2009 8:41:40 PM



Fearful that they could be forced, among other things, to extend employee benefits to same-sex married couples

Being forced to treat everyone equally?! Yikes! How horrible!!

"The city is saying in order to provide social services, you need to be secular.

Uhh... no they aren't. They're saying you need to not discriminate against gay people, which has nothing to do with believing in Jesus. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. The basic tenants of Christianity are all that stuff about Jesus and loving thy neighbor, not "Thou shalt hate the gays."

11/24/2009 9:55:56 PM

Berny

At issue is the fact the Catholic church is getting funds from the government, so the government has every right to insist secular law applies when disbursing those funds.
The Catholic church is always free to refuse government funding.

11/24/2009 10:00:58 PM

Sasha

Treating all people equally is your problem.

11/24/2009 11:23:24 PM

Thejebusfire

Yeah, Odin forbid you actually act christlike and help people for a change.

11/24/2009 11:31:07 PM



They're going to let who knows how many hundreds or thousands of people starve and sleep on the street due to discontinuation of their services if they're not allowed to continue dicriminating against gays. The Catholics haven't managed to turn my stomach this effectively since they sent the personnel records of the pedophile priests to Rome to help them avoid prosecution.

11/25/2009 12:18:12 AM

aaa

Fuck you too, catholic church.

11/25/2009 12:38:40 AM



Feel that Catholic love.

11/25/2009 12:48:27 AM

Sisyphus

Let them pull out their services. I'm sure there are plenty of other (better) organisations that would be willing to pick up the slack. Also, from what I read in the article, they don't have as much of an impact on things as they think they do.

11/25/2009 1:00:13 AM

LDM

It wouldn't really be a problem if you would just shut the fuck up and help people, like a truly decent person would.

11/25/2009 1:03:14 AM

CailinBan

Fine.

Just don't pull the 'But we do so much good in the world' card again, right. Because you're proving that the good you do is conditional on being able to push your agenda. So it's not good for goodness' sake; it's good like paedophiles giving sweets to children.

11/25/2009 2:32:27 AM

Clown

I wonder what services are these? And what is the nature of those contracts.

11/25/2009 2:51:51 AM

Brenz

It's not in order to provide social services, it's to have employees.

Then again, you collect all those funds and don't pay taxes, so I guess I'm really not concerned with your problems.

Let me put it to you this way, Susan: exactly where in the Bible does Jesus withhold healing from the sick and lame because of their sins?

11/25/2009 4:27:20 AM

Mister Spak

The city will improve when the bigots stop enforcing their bigotry.

11/25/2009 6:42:42 AM



Originally posted by Brenz

Let me put it to you this way, Susan: exactly where in the Bible does Jesus withhold healing from the sick and lame because of their sins?

Well, it doesn't say they're withholding service from gays, but that they don't want to hire gays. So I think the more appropriate question is: "Since when did Jesus deny discipleship to anyone because of their sins?"

11/25/2009 7:27:35 AM



@Sisyphus

Unfortunately, just like our health care system, our social service system is so pathetically inadequate (thanks to the good Christians of the right-wing) that these organizations can't meet the need as it is, so the loss of the best funded of them could do some real damage to those benefitting from their services now.


11/25/2009 7:50:12 AM

MK

"church officials said they would have no choice but to abandon their contracts with the city"

And that's how it should have been in the first place.

11/25/2009 8:18:53 AM

Paschal Wagner

"Discriminate against minorities or we'll let this homeless person starve."

11/25/2009 8:34:25 AM

Caustic Gnostic

They don't have a problem providing "social services" as long as the beneficiaries are real or potential members of their church.

Fucking Pharisees.

11/25/2009 8:38:33 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

Yes. If you are acting on behalf of the government, you have to be secular. It's called the First Amendment.

11/25/2009 10:04:40 AM
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