Public schools cannot be based on religious morality, her freedom would be curtailed more than yours, you do not have the freedom to take away others' freedoms, etc. It's all been said already. Why don't you people get it? And good for the ACLU. They're almost always on the right side of things.
11/24/2009 7:28:31 PM
Dear Mr. Staver:
Fuck off. I read the rest of your quotes in your article. Where the hell did you pull abortion from? Did anyone discuss abortion at the prom? Are you worried that the lesbians are going to perform abortions at the prom? Seriously.
The school should not be allowed to discriminate against a girl for her sexual orientation. You, as a lawyer, should know this. It's the law.
11/24/2009 7:29:51 PM
I went to the prom with a girl and really, nobody gave a shit.
11/24/2009 7:32:06 PM
The Bad Guy
Religious liberty = "Do as I say, when I say it, because I said so!"
11/24/2009 7:33:04 PM
11/24/2009 7:44:53 PM
Prohibiting someone from going to the prom is freedom?
What a strange world these people live in.
11/24/2009 7:52:54 PM
So tell me, Matt, how is it not anti-freedom to ban someone from the prom because of a same-sex date?
11/24/2009 8:01:10 PM
What people like Mat don't realize is that the ACLU has stood up for the christians too.
11/24/2009 8:24:23 PM
Your side ranted about freedom of expressive association in schools. As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
11/24/2009 8:24:38 PM
Oh, come on, let the girl take her partner to the dance -- it's the fucking prom! It's a once-in-a-lifetime kind of thing.
11/24/2009 8:24:44 PM
Mat's pissed because no girl would go to the prom with him.
11/24/2009 8:39:16 PM
refuter of fundy vermin
'According to Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel, the case is typical of the ACLU in that "anything that is anti-moral, anti-religious liberty, and anti-freedom, you can always find them on the other side."'
Anti-freedom more accurately describes the mis-named 'Liberty Counsel', more accurately 'Counsel for Christo-Fascism'. What these shitbags really want is freedom to persecute those who dare to oppose or disagree with them. Fuck off and DIE Mat Staver.
11/24/2009 9:02:33 PM
Yes, because the freedom to go to a prom with whoever you want is anti-freedom. Get a fucking life.
11/24/2009 9:11:39 PM
Logic Parser 001
"anything that is anti-moral, anti-religious liberty, and anti-freedom, you can always find them on the other side."
Wait, the ACLU is on the opposite side of anti-moral, anti-religious, and anti-freedom causes? Then they are on the side of moral, religious and freedom causes? Um, I think my language parser broke.
11/24/2009 11:06:29 PM
So, it's okay to go to the prom and dance like a total slut, but it's wrong to go to the prom with another girl?
11/24/2009 11:34:51 PM
According to Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel, the case is typical of the ACLU in that "anything that is anti-moral, anti-religious liberty, and anti-freedom, you can always find them on the other side."
Where's the fundie again?
Oh, right. Too stupid to realize he complimented them.
Thejebusfire: As long as you're dancing like a slut for a guy, I guess there's no problem.
11/24/2009 11:41:13 PM
so it's anti freedom to prevent the freedom of someone to take whoever they want to the prom?
11/25/2009 12:16:23 AM
Buzzwords aren't impressing anybody, Mat. You should know this already.
11/25/2009 12:20:46 AM
Well, the girl wants to go to prom with her girlfriend (female friend). So what? There probably is more girls in that school than boys, so what's the problem in that? /feigned ignorance
Also, citation needed Mat Staver.
11/25/2009 2:50:02 AM
Do I have this wrong? I wish Christian Groups would stop calling themselves America Liberty Patriot Family Morals Coalition. Just call yourselves Unenforceable Meddling and cohere into one sticky mass.
Explain to me how religious liberty and freedom are being violated here for anyone except the girl? Maybe lesbians are sacred in her religion, jerk.
And freedom? "Hey, sorry, 17-year-old-girl. I know high school's hard enough, especially for a homosexual these days, but why don't you stay home and not attend this party with your friends. Maybe then you'll think twice about being gay. Unless of course you'd like attend by yourself and be singled out as different for having affection for another human being."
11/25/2009 4:23:03 AM
You know, I really hope that the ACLU wins and the girls get to go to the prom together. Sure for everyone else its not that big a deal (except the fundies) but to those girls it is.
11/25/2009 4:37:55 AM
Man groups like these have forever made me suspicious of the following words in political/lobby groups names:
- (any religious denomination really)
11/25/2009 5:02:33 AM
That's the point of the ACLU: to stand against "anything that is anti-moral, anti-religious liberty, and anti-freedom." Thanks for recognizing that--oh wait, that's not what you meant at all. You're a moron.
And while I don't hate my state of birth, I now have one less reason to be proud of it. Way to go, Alabama! Yep, you're sure showing everyone how totally sophisticated and advanced and non-Deliverance we are now!
11/25/2009 5:03:44 AM
If they're going to make out on the dance floor lesbians should be prohibited from not going to the prom.
11/25/2009 6:41:54 AM
The L, look at it this way: Kansas is still mocked over the one board of education decision to teach Creationism in schools. With luck, the ACLU will win for the poor girl, she'll go to her prom with her girlfriend, be happy, and have good memories after the fundies were told to sit down and shut up.
11/25/2009 7:20:29 AM