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People in the Moral theology forum are certainly free to disagree with Church teaching. However if those people happen to be Catholic, and disagree with Church teaching, they may be placing their souls at risk. Therefore it is not a good idea.

JRKH, Catholic Answers 44 Comments [11/25/2009 1:33:14 PM]
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Nathan the Wise

Cos, y'know, Church teaching has never changed, ever ever.

11/25/2009 1:51:32 PM

The Pope will smite them and smite them good.

11/25/2009 1:57:35 PM

Doctor Whom

Scaring people into doctrinal rigidity will just scare them out of the church. At least that's what happened in my family.

11/25/2009 2:12:37 PM


"People in the Moral theology forum are certainly free to disagree with Church teaching. However if those people happen to be Catholic, and disagree with Church teaching, they may be placing their souls at risk. Therefore it is not a good idea."

Just like you're free to disagree with the mugger demanding your wallet, but you may be killed for doing so.

Not much of a choice, really.

11/25/2009 2:25:12 PM


So you're free to disagree with Church teaching, if you're cool with being tortured for it. Thanks for clearing that one up.

11/25/2009 2:43:25 PM

Old Viking

Even the teachings that are inhuman and anti-life?

11/25/2009 2:54:46 PM

Dr. Shrinker

So can I disagree with priests who sexually abuse children? How about church superiors who try to hide said abuse? I mean, its not exactly church doctrine for them to be doing so. Or is your lot still not talking about that?

11/25/2009 3:36:10 PM


So your god will send you to eternal fire for not agreeing with the pope on an internet forum?
Methinks you need to find a magic sky-daddy who's, um, less of a cunt.

11/25/2009 3:42:49 PM


Oh, STFU and DIAF.

11/25/2009 3:50:08 PM

Caustic Gnostic

This clown makes it sound like the cHurch is a monster who kills his own followers for self-righteous lulz.

Well, come to think of it,...yeah.

11/25/2009 3:57:15 PM


The Catholics are up to their old tricks again I see.

11/25/2009 5:21:13 PM

Dr. Shrinker

@ Troy who is masquerading as Anon

"Don't worry about who God is yet or even if He exists,"

I don't

"...just realize the universe needs a cause and can't come from nothing."

Why not? What makes you such an expert? And, for the thousandth time why should we apply this notion to the universe and not to your god?

"Let me know if you have reached that point yet."

Don't patronize me Troy.

"If you were to find a cause for radioactive decay or whatever, you would still say something else could happen all by itself."

And you point here is...? I mean, science always provides you with more questions to be answered. Religion may provide final answers, but they are meaningless answers, so why bother?

"Are you like a 3 year old?"

I said don't patronize me.

"There is observably proven trillions of causes in nature and no hard evidence something (in nature) comes from that which does not exist."

That doesn;t prove god. It only means that there are more questions to be answered. An inquisitive mind embraces this fact. I dull mind hides its face in the corner and screams for an easy answer. that is all your god is, an easy answer to soothe your fears.

"Why shut your mind down to this fact?"

See my above response and tell me who is shutting their mind.

"Why don't you like fact-based overwhelming preponderance of evidence that is beyond a reasonable doubt?"

I do, that is why I reject your god. Your god is a supernatural entity and thus incapable of being examined by natural evidence.

"e.g. throwing a baseball. Try it out, throw a baseball."

And that would prove what now?

"Why do you need to know all things to know if the universe requires a cause?"

Who the @#$! said that?

"That's stupid."

I agree. Why did you bring it up?

"Stop avoiding the question. Only God could know all things."

Why should I assume that god exists? Your screed begins by telling me not to think about him.

"You make yourself out to be God then."

Your god does not exist. if I am wrong, then show me your god.

"How obnoxious and pompous!"

But spamming this stupid screed on every thread you can find isn't? You've got some weird ideas of those words mean.

"You don't care about logic do you?"

Do you even know what that word "Logic" means? Your screed does not suggest that you do.

11/25/2009 5:22:01 PM


Let's think this through. You can disagree but if you're a Catholic you risk your soul, ergo to save your soul give up Catholocism.

11/25/2009 6:11:39 PM

Dr. Shrinker

@ #1063188

First, stealing my screen handle is a very immature reaction to being called on your nonsense. Second, your screed is just as stupid the second time as it was the first.


the real Dr. Shrinker

11/25/2009 6:46:14 PM



An empire of fear.

11/25/2009 7:48:19 PM


This is totally meh. That's just part of Catholicism, you have to believe the catechism.

11/25/2009 7:52:46 PM

I was raised Catholic, and though I never really believed it, there were fun holidays, good music and good art. Then I spent 6 years in Europe, and when I came back in 1992 I found that all the bonhomie was gone and that Catholics were trying to out-fundie the Baptists. wha happen?

11/25/2009 8:06:12 PM

refuter of fundy vermin

Trying to scare people into compliance with church dogma won't work. 2 popes (John Paul II and Benedict XVI) have both demanded Canadian lawmakers enact laws reflecting Catholic doctrine. Canada's lawmakers ignored them. Nothing happened. Therefore, if the church wants to DECREASE its membership, then they can just keep doing what JKRH advocates.

11/25/2009 8:33:35 PM


Easy solution, stop being Catholic.

11/25/2009 9:26:35 PM


Oh no, not my soul.

11/25/2009 9:35:33 PM


Remember kids, two plus two equals five. Because god said so.

11/26/2009 12:26:14 AM


I'm pretty sure that everything you do is "placing your soul at risk". Especially if you are female (Thanks a lot, Saul!). You can breathe lascivously(, according to David J. Stewart, anyway).

11/26/2009 2:04:29 AM

Wow. Straight from the Middle Ages.

11/26/2009 3:38:13 AM

The L

As an ex-Catholic, I think this is the stupidest excuse for "no dissenters allowed" I've ever heard.

Yeah, I'm sorely tempted to post about women in the clergy.

11/26/2009 4:39:05 AM


I've long suspected that Catholicism is a threat to one's soul.

11/26/2009 11:59:17 AM

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