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So it's not a disaster by popping out a couple dozen kids that you can't support, but actually deciding to take care of them without getting on your knees every five minutes to talk to your imaginary friend is a potential disaster?
It amazes me how brainwashed these people are. Reminds me of a local woman who back in the 80's was praying for that little girl who fell down the well in Texas while her own toddler son was running down the street unsupervised.
11/27/2009 8:05:37 AM
Surely God can take care of himself...
11/27/2009 8:16:47 AM
Peter Griffin, to a bunch of drug addicts:
"And be sure to have as many kids as you can, because there will be a greater chance that one of them will become a rich celebrity, and then will be able to take care of you."
11/27/2009 8:24:31 AM
Evil Left-Wing Feminist
That's sad. :(
11/27/2009 10:34:58 AM
You're right, that putting your kids first doesn't necessarily mean "being in their face every minute of every day." However, it's also true that putting them second (which does not automatically mean you're putting yourself first) doesn't necessarily mean treating your cildren as "little dolls to be played with when you feel like, and shoved in the closet when you don't." There's a spectrum of possibilities here, and just because someone's priorities aren't perfect doesn't mean they're a complete monster. Some of the commentors seemed to be implying that making God a priority automatically meant completely ignoring your kids to spend all your time praying.
11/27/2009 10:40:49 AM
My kids are real. That is a fact. They need my attention, my love, and my guidance. That is also a fact.
Among those who believe in god there seems to be a general assumption that he (it is almost always a "he") is omnipotent and omniscient. Such a being by definition does not need anything from mortal beings of limited ability and knowledge. It seems absurd to put consideration of a non-material, possibly non-existent being above consideration of very real children with very real needs.
Of course there are many other aspect of life that require our attention. A few of these are our spouses, work, friends, communities and countries. Many of us find the demands of this world to be very taxing. And the question remains; why should we be expected to put a non-material, possibly non-existent being that by definition does not need anything above the very real elements of our lives that do need us?
As I see it, the entire issue is a set up to manipulate the faithful. Every minute we spend attending to worldly considerations and not to god is a minute we are expected to feel guilty about wasting. The resulting negative feelings are supposed to make the faithful cling even closer to their god, begging that they be forgiven and not sent to hell.
Personally, I find it easier to dispense with the god and the guilt and focus on what is real in this world.
11/27/2009 11:17:20 AM
Yeah, cranking out more kids is more important than caring for the ones you already have...gotcha.
11/27/2009 11:37:00 AM
Most fundies put God before their kids. what happens? their kids end up hungry because daddy and mommy wanted to become missionaries.
11/27/2009 12:55:48 PM
@ Dr. Shrinker
I'm not saying your kids don't need you love and attention. I'm certainly not saying they're imaginary ;) I'm glad you take good care of your kids, and I'm sorry you find religion to be all about guilt (I know it is for a lot of people, but it doesn't have to be.)
I'm not arguing that everyone should have to put God first, and I am not condemning this woman for trying to fix her life (which I agree had been royally screwed up by the quiverfull movement.) All I am saying is that I found the comments a few people made to be over the top. I know families for whom God does come first, and while they are not perfect, they are also not abusive and neglectful. Just because you believe in the importance of serving God (usually by helping other people) and being grateful for what you have doesn't mean you consider your kids to be worthless and irrelevant, or that you don't take the time to care for them. People can have more than one priority.
11/27/2009 1:20:06 PM
But isn't our loving Yahweh "perfect" as you Christians say? Then there'd be no need to put Him over your own kids. If He "loves" us as the Apologetic crazies tell me, then He wouldn't care about not being your #1 priority.
Dig a hole and take your evil cult there. Don't come back out for the next 30 years.
11/28/2009 3:01:52 AM
I read about the afterlife
I don't think she "apologied" for putting god before her family...But she definitely apologized for it. Go her.
11/28/2009 6:05:01 AM
I'll try to keep this brief - die in a fire.
11/28/2009 10:21:24 AM
Fuck you and your fucking cult. This isn't the Middle Ages anymore (although you cuntrags would love it if it were). You don't have to make 10-15 children in order to make sure your genes get passed on, since you don't have children dying left and right thanks to modern medicine, which you retards apparently don't need because you think praying will heal everything. Just go make some remote village somewhere in the middle of nowhere and live out your bass ackwards lives and leave the rest of us modern human beings alone.
11/29/2009 1:01:59 AM
Let's see: #1 We are here to worship God and glorify him. #2 Marriage is to make us more godly and not to be confused with actual happiness. #3 Put your children before God. #4 On and on and on..
Does this seem way-over-the-top narcissism? You can kiss my ass if you think I won't put my family and friends first.
11/29/2009 1:10:43 PM
I don't know, part of me wants to read that as (very insensitive) sarcasm, but we have already seem that there are fundies that messed up... In either case, Timber is an asshole.
@the old firm:
"The man himself said something like "Suffer not the little children!". But Fundies turn it always to "Suffer little children"."
IIRC the sentence was "Suffer the little children", but in this context "suffer" means "tolerate, be patient with", not "torture the little shits!"
11/30/2009 12:23:05 AM
Why the hell would an omnipotent being need to come before your fragile children? I'm more than confident that a being who can create vast universes is more than capable of taking care of himself. Besides would a truly loving and benevolent god really expect you to put him/her/it before your own children? I think not.
11/30/2009 3:54:33 AM
Putting an imaginary person first before actualpeople is a disaster waiting to happen.
11/30/2009 6:30:13 AM
"Putting God second...even after your precious little munchkins...is a disaster waiting to happen. "
But will at least prevent you from hallucinating and following "God's" voice when it tells you to murder your children.
11/30/2009 4:53:53 PM
So you're idea of god is a huge attention whore with psychopathic tendencies? Nice to know.
12/22/2009 4:04:28 PM
As an Asatruar, I find it extremely mind-boggling that anybody would abandon their family like this.
1/7/2010 5:00:42 PM
Wow GOD must be one hell of an imaginary friend!!!
4/12/2010 1:00:19 PM
If God comes before everything, then you can't argue that God comes before breathing, so please STOP BREATHING!!!
4/12/2010 1:10:09 PM
So your imaginary friend is more important than your family? That's really sad.
9/7/2010 12:11:44 AM
You're a moron that has already happened. The only thing that I respect less than your miserable God is people who post vile rubbish like that - and I don't even like kids very much.
9/7/2010 12:30:12 AM
It sounds more like she's putting her children before the Quiverfull movement, than before God. Go her!
9/7/2010 2:13:06 AM
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