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#1064545
Danny Noonan
I pay taxes, does that mean I don't have to follow the law?
11/30/2009 11:11:14 AM
#1064555
Waiter, I would like blue cheese dressing with my word salad please.
11/30/2009 11:23:04 AM
#1064558
Does this person have any idea how our government works?
By not paying taxes, the government stays out of the business of the churches unless a crime has been committed (and even then, doesn't get very involved. If they did, then there would be quite a few priests in jail for statutory rape and sodomy).
11/30/2009 11:24:19 AM
#1064559
Rayne
Fine. Neither do I. Where's my fundie whacking club?
11/30/2009 11:27:00 AM
#1064561
smartz
Constitutional fail.
11/30/2009 11:27:20 AM
#1064569
breakerslion
Special interest groups do not work that way. They tend to fund campaigns and mobilize a whiny, vocal minority to pretend to speak for "everyone". Since religious organizations don't participate in this kind of activity ... oh wait....
Oh yeah, and, "Logic Fail!"
11/30/2009 11:34:44 AM
#1064572
MK
When you start paying taxes because you're classified as a political organization and not a church, no money that your donors give you will be tax deductible to them.
See how much money they give then.
11/30/2009 11:38:25 AM
#1064573
smartz
Oops, double post...
11/30/2009 11:38:38 AM
#1064574
Saint Saturn
As a gay guy that lives close to DC, I want to point out that the city council isn't trying to force the area's church to be pro-gay. They're not even trying to exert power or influence over anything but the district's laws. The council isn't telling the church to go pro-gay. They're saying they can't discriminate against them, is all.
The fact that Catholic Charities is trying to frame the situation as the council forcing them to pull their support is absolutely terrible. The city council is making municipal decisions. It's Catholic Charities that are making the choice to stop helping the poor and needy.
It's disgusting that a charitable organization would use the DC poor as leverage to exert political influence and then have the gall to make it seem as if its the government treading all over them. The homeless and needy have nothing to do with this. Why should they even enter the equation, let alone suffer, just because the local government dares to do what it was elected to do and acts independently of the church?
Also: paying taxes doesn't exempt you from state law. Thanks for playing, try again.
11/30/2009 11:40:03 AM
#1064576
aaa
Yet another angry babby. Kid, you already have more political power than the entire third world.
11/30/2009 11:42:00 AM
#1064577
COCKRIPPER
BLEND TO DEATH ALL TAXPAYERS! AND CATHOLICS! AND OHL!
11/30/2009 11:46:58 AM
#1064578
DevilsChaplain
I actually kind of agree with this...to an extent.
We separate church and state in America, and that means the two don't touch each other at all. However, if these churches want to reap the benefits of church-state separation such as tax exemption then they have to stay the fuck out of politics. Any churches or synagogues or mosques involved in political activity (anti-abortion activism, funding money to anti-gay propositions, etc.) should have their tax-exempt status revoked.
11/30/2009 11:47:15 AM
#1064590
nads
"I demand that the Bishops have a seat in every governing body in the United States."
run for election and get into office like every other tax payer has to do.
11/30/2009 12:09:22 PM
#1064596
John
The church interferes with homosexuals' rights.
So the state should be able to interfere with the church's right to interfere.
But then the church should be able to interfere with the state's right to interfere with their right to interfere.
But then the state should be allowed to interfere with the church's right to interfere with the state's right to interfere with their right to interfere.
But then ...
11/30/2009 12:19:44 PM
#1064597
WMDKitty
LOLWUT?
Paying taxes has nothing to do with following state law -- you pretty much HAVE to, either way.
11/30/2009 12:21:50 PM
#1064598
Mister Spak
"We will have every right to violate the "separation of church and state" clause you bigots wield like a troll with a club. "
My first amendment club is bigger than your bible club.
"But when we start paying taxes, we don't have to do anything the state tells us."
So if I pay taxes I don't have to do anything you fundies tell me?
11/30/2009 12:22:31 PM
#1064599
Lucilius
All so much hot air until your churches actually pay taxes. And we all know that's never going to happen. So blather on all you like.
11/30/2009 12:23:05 PM
#1064601
Axon
"If we don't pay taxes, we have to abide by the laws of the state. Fine. But when we start paying taxes, we don't have to do anything the state tells us."
I don't think you understand how taxes work.
11/30/2009 12:24:13 PM
#1064604
kat
Does this mean I can do whatever the hell I please, fuck the law, because I pay taxes? Sweet!
11/30/2009 12:28:57 PM
#1064607
Your church is ALREADY represented in government, you fucking idiot, because every member or your church has an individual vote.
NO organization, taxed or untaxed, has a "seat in every governing body of the United States". Do you see seats in Congress designated for Microsoft or other big tax-paying corporations? (Disregarding, of course, than the bought--and-paid for Congresspeople we have due to the lobbying system, but that's another rant).
Clearly, grammar isn't the only subject neglected in homeschooling.
11/30/2009 12:35:59 PM
#1064616
Detrs
You can start paying off those 200+ years of back taxes. This might take you a while.
11/30/2009 12:52:51 PM
#1064617
Clown
Reality doesn't work that way!
11/30/2009 12:54:07 PM
#1064620
GigaGuess
Oh, I see...so when you're paying taxes, you're paying for the right to bypass the democratic process? Gotcha. So let me know when I get the rigth to appoint someone of my own personal choosing to power.
11/30/2009 12:57:41 PM
#1064621
Porky Pine
"But when we start paying taxes, we don't have to do anything the state tells us."
This makes no sense.
11/30/2009 12:57:50 PM
#1064625
Doctor Whom
JUST TRY TO SILENCE US. We will have every right to violate the "separation of church and state" clause you bigots wield like a troll with a club. Because you clearly have no problem with the state interfering with the church on confirming the glories of (circle all that apply: homosex, remarriage after divorce, interracial marriage, interfaith marriage), but heaven forbid the church stick to hear guns and beliefs. And, you know, express them as guaranteed by the First Amendment.
Same shit, different decade.
11/30/2009 1:01:35 PM
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