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And infertile heterosexual couples never get married or adopt children, right?
12/1/2009 7:59:27 PM
"Marriage is family construct, [...] and two men can't make a baby."
But they don't have to be able to make a baby to be a family. A straight couple that's been married for 20 years and hasn't had any kids is still a family. And even if babies were required for family/marriage, there is this newfangled thing called adoption...
Edit: Also, aren't families supposed to be about love???
12/1/2009 8:00:19 PM
"Marriage is family construct, not an expression of love and two men can't make a baby."
So by that reasoning, elderly people who fall in love cannot get married either. How nice. I think you should be the one to tell them that whenever a nice elderly couple go to get a marriage license.
12/1/2009 8:03:00 PM
Well now, let's give the guy some credit here. He really is going by the Bible's definition of marriage here - it's a contract, not an expression of love.
It's just plain stupid that guys like this refuse to acknowledge that marriage has evolved well beyond a mere contract for transfer of property through a person.
12/1/2009 8:10:09 PM
Hooray for...no love in marriages. Hmm. That didn't sound as good as I thought it would.
12/1/2009 8:14:59 PM
If science gets two sperm cells to make a baby, will you reconsider? I think I heard somewhere that they can do that with two egg cells, or are at least close.
12/1/2009 8:16:09 PM
in vitro fertilization
12/1/2009 8:52:02 PM
Marriage is a business deal. It has nothing to do with family.
12/1/2009 9:01:12 PM
First, define family. A family is not always a man, a woman, and their kids.
Second, why the hell do people get married if it's not an expression of love?
And so what if two men (or two women) can't reproduce with each other? That's not an argument against anything, except someone stating that they can (with our current medical technology).
12/1/2009 9:22:11 PM
12/1/2009 9:38:22 PM
So all those men running around with vasectomies are totally marriage posers, right?
12/1/2009 9:51:12 PM
refuter of fundy vermin
'Marriage is family construct, not an expression of love and two men can't make a baby.'
And what about heterosexual couples who are UNABLE to have children or DON'T WANT to have children? Oh wait! I guess they should be prevented from marrying too! Fucking hypocrites.
12/1/2009 10:16:45 PM
This argument is so utterly feeble that I'm constantly astonished when homophobes keep trotting it out like it's going to win them some points.
12/1/2009 10:37:24 PM
And, as we all know, the only definition of a family is a breeding pair of humans. Gay people, infertile people, elderly people, they're just not family material.
12/1/2009 10:44:48 PM
This argument again? Please, you aren't going to win anything with it.
12/1/2009 11:10:27 PM
And that's why I support mandatory divorce after the woman goes through menopause!
12/1/2009 11:10:42 PM
jsbrads, I hope that you are not planning on having a family of your own. Children deserve to grow up loved and accepted, not bred like so much livestock.
Whether you do or don't want married peole to have certain preferential tax standings, Christian Fundamentalist people cannot marry.
Marriage is for all people, not an expression of bigotry and two bigots can't raise a baby.
12/1/2009 11:20:29 PM
Stupid asshole! Me and hubby can't make a baby either, it seems. Are we not allowed to stay married then?
Two men can raise a baby, as can two women. And so can a single parent of either gender, for that matter.
Not an expression of love? Welcome to the 16th century, or what? Then you married to further your family's influence in society, and to extend its property. "Family" here means parents, uncles and aunts, siblings. Not you and your future spouse, you had just a tiny say in the matter.
12/1/2009 11:29:12 PM
two men can't make a baby
That will change in the not too distant future.
The problem with male eggs and female sperm is, imo, not that gays will be able to have biological children. It's all the kids out there who need families. It seems kinda selfish.
12/1/2009 11:39:20 PM
I dont know about you, but as for me....I DONT want married peole.
I know, a mistype, but it sounded funny.
12/1/2009 11:59:02 PM
traditional marriage is a family construct involving a contract for the disposition of property, ie a way of controlling who got what; romantic love and marriage is very much a 19C fancy.
If 2 people of differeing sexes with nothing can get the full legal (and religious) caboodle, why not 2 of the same sex?
Oh, I forgot, civilisation will fall....
12/2/2009 12:10:37 AM
Marriage isn't an expression of love? In that case, I seriously fucked up 32 years ago. Can't imagine why I've stayed married all that time either, considering we never wanted to breed and didn't.
12/2/2009 12:14:22 AM
"Marriage is family construct, not an expression of love..."
....Somebody doesn't like their spouse.
12/2/2009 12:39:46 AM
Since marriage is just about making babies, when the wife reaches menopause, shouldn't the husband trade her in for a younger, more fertile model?
Where's the sanctimonious sanctity?
12/2/2009 2:17:16 AM
I'm against all marriage! /Barney Stinson
12/2/2009 2:25:52 AM
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