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Quote# 684

[Trying to reconcile 'free' will and omniscience with the finest logic available]

Juliod, think about this. If God knew that you were going to have pancakes, that means that you, on your own free will, would chose pancakes over waffles. If God knew, you would have zero chance of eating waffles, because your free will would not lead you to having waffles. Think about that.

Americanrock61, Christian Website Talk! 20 Comments [9/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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#48882
Redhunter

Quit bogarting the jay and pass it on.

7/3/2006 9:39:20 AM

#200184
NonProphet

What??
Do you even know what you're saying?

4/3/2007 6:22:36 PM

#200187
anti-nonsense

Yeah sure, that makes looooots of sense. Not.

4/3/2007 6:25:01 PM

#200219
Doctor Whom

In other breaking news, up is down.

4/3/2007 7:00:28 PM

#378562
cyborgtroy

I don't think free will exists. stfu.

1/10/2008 8:06:57 PM

#378596
Alarica

...... and Dr. Perry "Jesus" Cox Almighty said unto him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCNohqUHsac




1/10/2008 9:15:57 PM

#378616
GigaGuess

Huh? I think it's trying to communicate.

1/10/2008 10:07:23 PM

#378724
(H9)

Sounds to me like you don't really believe in free will.

1/11/2008 12:46:41 AM

#620679
green_meklar

So apparently determinism is the new free will.

Or something.

8/7/2008 9:19:21 PM

#686313
Funnyguts

Deterministic compatibilism is not the free will you Christians claim we have.

9/16/2008 3:03:26 AM

#686355
Grigadil

The contents of my pantry dictate what I eat, not some bronze age weirdo.

9/16/2008 3:39:44 AM

#1019755
Kisare

That's not free will. you fail.

9/12/2009 6:26:58 PM

#1150171
robland

If he really knows everything about everything before it happens, why does he
A) Get mad and vengeful?
B) Not get extremely bored?

4/23/2010 8:46:36 AM

#1150185
Quantum Mechanic

"Think about that."

I tried, but I had to reboot.

4/23/2010 9:35:53 AM

#1150232
Swede

What does God care about waffles versus pancakes? It's basically the same batter, really.

4/23/2010 12:05:21 PM

#1150252
Canadiest

With that kinda freedom you can do just what God wants you to do. I see the root of Tea-Party dementia in this pretzel-logic. I don't know why they have no concept of freedom, but shit like this has been raising three generations of bent people

4/23/2010 3:51:47 PM

#1185845
Allegory for Jesus

Accurate omniscience in regards to knowing future events inherently contradicts free will because it suggests that choices are predestined unless the knowledge of the future comes in terms of probabilities rather than certainties.

7/27/2010 12:57:19 PM

#1189371
The Duelist

Uh oh. My computer just sent me this message;


WARNING: HIGHLY RETARDED SELF-CONTRADICTING ANOMALY DETECTED.

SCANNING COMMENT FOR ANY INTELLIGENCE WHATSOEVER...

*scanning*

..........
..........


NONE FOUND. NO HOPE THERE IS, FOR THIS ONE.
BUT DO NOT DESPAIR; THERE IS ANOTHER...........

8/7/2010 4:32:14 PM

#1189569
Brain_In_A_Jar

That wouldn't be free will, though it might be the illusion of free will in a brain that was, nevertheless, entirely deterministic.

8/8/2010 5:16:43 AM

#1189671
Justanotheratheist

Ok, I've thought about it. The inescapable conclusion is that you are talking complete crap and should shut up before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

That definition of free will involves neither freedom nor will. What you are saying is that the decision to have pancakes was made for you by god. At least, I think that's what your are saying. If god was dictating that message through your fingers the silly old fool should take time out to study some basic English.

8/8/2010 11:05:50 AM
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