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I don't agree that lack of fertile land has ever been a problem. The earth has always produced for it's inhabitants in abundance. This struggle for food is a total myth.

Chris Groves, BBC Science Board 20 Comments [9/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Redhunter

You are a fucking retard. I'm sorry to the retards, that wasn't fair. Chris Groves you are a clue-less bag of rectal scabs, decomposing behind a radiator in a rat infested tenament. If you don't have a reasonable grasp of what is being talked aobut by the adults, please refrain from opening that vacuuous, shit-filled, fungus-infected dump-hole of yours.

7/3/2006 9:30:42 AM

Redhunter

You are a fucking retard. I'm sorry to the retards, that wasn't fair. Chris Groves you are a clue-less bag of rectal scabs, decomposing behind a radiator in a rat infested tenament. If you don't have a reasonable grasp of what is being talked aobut by the adults, please refrain from opening that vacuuous, shit-filled, fungus-infected dump-hole of yours.

7/3/2006 9:30:42 AM

Julian

Tell that to the great Incan and Mayan civilisations.

Did you know the Middle East used to be known as the fertile crescent?

7/4/2006 2:56:26 AM

NonProphet

Ah, well, tell that to all those people Sally Struthers goes on about. I'm sure they'll be happy to know that they're not really dying of starvation.

Seriously, how far out of touch with reality do you have to be to spout this sort of nonsense?

4/19/2007 2:16:20 PM

Skeptical

Local famines certainly exist, sometimes due to weather conditions and sometimes due to oppressive governments in places where there is plenty of good land but the people are in one way or another prevented from using it. Sometimes it's even because activists try to deny them effective farming methods such as pesticides and genetically modified crops.

However, worldwide, per capita food production has been on the increase for a long long time. I am pretty surprised that skeptics would not know this. There is a lot more food per person in the world than there has ever been, and it's increasing. No, it isn't distributed evenly throughout the world (and sometimes the people have their own arable land but are prevented from utilizing it effectively) but the food is there. It's pretty stupid and ignorant to pretend that it isn't.

4/19/2007 3:03:48 PM

anti-nonsense

You are out of touch with reality.

4/19/2007 3:48:45 PM

Rahab

Except that there are way more people living right now than have ever lived at any time in the past, and that number just keeps on multiplying. How long is the earth going to really be able to sustain us (especially since so many of us seem to think the only way to please our God is to pop out as many babies as possible)?

4/19/2007 3:53:45 PM

Laurel

The Christian Children's Fund disagrees, and they have footage of starving people. You simply have no brain and no compassion, ergo you lose.

4/19/2007 4:05:39 PM

Skeptical

If you were talking to me, Rahub, the point is that's per capita. The growth of the population does not affect something that is being measured per capita. http://www.answers.com/topic/food-production-per-capita-1961-2005-png

That is also with much arable land not being used and other land not being used with the most efficient methods.

As to overpopulation; Europe is well below population replacement level, Russia is worried about its imploding population levels, China is quickly declining and the US is below replacement level. The only population explosion that is a worry now is the high numbers of geriatrics who will have to be cared for by the low numbers of young people since not as many are being born. (Hispanics are keeping up and multiplying, so I guess in 25 years they'll no longer be a \"minority.\")

4/19/2007 4:13:41 PM

Mr. Universalist

Don't go to Africa and say that, those dudes are REALLY commited to the lie that people are starving.

2/18/2008 3:03:18 AM

BrendanJD

North Korea. Learn about in during the 1990's bitch.

8/24/2008 2:30:15 PM

Moondog

Desertification is a huge problem in many arid and semi-arid areas. The Sahara formed only recently. North Africa was the granary of the Roman Empire. You can't raise much there today, except for dates around oases. Population grouth will only stress the arable land we do have in the future. You fail.

8/24/2008 3:00:47 PM

Quantum Mechanic

After all, McDonald's is everywhere!

9/6/2008 6:28:43 PM

Ian

So quit starving, you damn africans!

2/23/2009 1:18:35 AM

Sisyphus

Tell that to the starving children in Africa.

6/18/2009 11:39:51 AM

Clown

Sure thing Chris. Please DIAF an tell that to every man, woman and child that died from starvation in 2008/09. I'm sure you'll find people from every country of the world.

6/18/2009 11:47:02 AM

Blarghonius

Says the person that can afford to chow down on three racks of gold-plated ribs a day.

10/3/2011 7:12:38 PM

rubber chicken

Skeptical is correct. According to the data gathered by the UN Food and Agricultural Organisation the amount of food per person has, on average, increased every year since the sixties.
The problem is that the distribution of all that food is not equitable.
The US and Western Europe throw away more food every year than the amount needed to feed every starving person on the planet.
Most countries that suffer from famines are, in fact, food exporters, mostly to the first world. In many cases their most fertile arable land is being used to produce cash crops for sale to the west such as Coffee, Fruit and, amazingly, flowers.
It is the west's desire to have several dozen different varieties of Java on the breakfast table and fresh blooms on their reception desks every day that is costing peoples lives not any form of population growth.

10/3/2011 9:21:33 PM

A. Square

*sigh* Get reborn as an African child in Somalia and get back to me.

7/31/2013 10:46:36 AM

Felix Wilde

Rubber chicken and Skeptical are right, but Chris is still wrong; it has only been recently that food production per capita has reached a level high enough to eliminate hunger.

Shortage of arable land is not in itself a problem any more, but economic circumstances, corruption and ignorance maintain famine nonetheless. However, this is a recent state of affairs; for most of humanity's history, the scarcity of food and arable land has been a major threat.

I should also point out that the poorest regions of the US still see deaths from malnutrition and easily curable disease. That's not because you can't farm in Appalachia, it's because of economic inequality. Same goes anywhere poverty reaches those depths.

7/31/2013 8:07:45 PM
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