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I wasn't born gay and neither were you. It was a path I chose, a sexually perverted choice on my behalf. If I was born that way, others, such as child molesters, drunkards, adulterers, thieves, could claim the same thing. Even if you think you were born that way, God still condemns it. He wouldn't make you that way and then condemn you to hell. It was your choice, so turn from it. Even if you still have the desire after you have repented, fellowship with Christians, personal prayer, and studying God's word will help you refrain and stay right with God. You may never have a heterosexual relationship and you may be single the rest of your life, but as stated above, life here on earth is a vapor. We aren't here long but we have heaven to look forward to if we remain faithful unto death.

Tony Horton, Why I left the Homosexual Lifestyle 119 Comments [1/8/2010 7:43:32 AM]
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Nathan

It must be horrible when for your entire life you've been "taught" that your life is some way wrong or perverted. That you just be what you are is wrong. In the end you "choose" to change your life just because someone says your "old" life is wrong. But did you ever stop, for even one second, to think with your own brains? Instead of just blindly accepting the BS others feed on you?

That must be probably the most horrible thing I can think of.

1/8/2010 7:48:26 AM

Doubting Thomas

Yeah, why not be alone and miserable? It's better than just accepting that you're gay and enjoying your life. And I'd be really interested to hear when Tony "chose" to be gay.

"He wouldn't make you that way and then condemn you to hell."

You almost got it that time. Almost.

1/8/2010 7:52:56 AM

shykid

Awww, I almost feel sorry for the poor pathetic self-loathing bastard (keyword being "almost"--if only he didn't hate or lash out at others as much as he does himself).

1/8/2010 8:00:54 AM



If it's a choice then why can't I choose to become a lesbian?

1/8/2010 8:02:23 AM

Misty

Two options here. Either..
1- You were straight.
2- You were so guilt tripped and scared shitless by religious psychomaniacs with their "HELL HELL YOU'LL BURN IN HELL" you fooled yourself to believe you're not gay.


1/8/2010 8:06:30 AM

Richard

"He wouldn't make you that way and then condemn you to hell."
Yes, yes, yes, go on, you've nearly reached the point we're trying to make...

"It was your choice, so turn from it"
Annnnnnnd crap. Missed it. That was like dribbling a basket ball all the way down a court, setting yourself up for a slam dunk and then jumping, and falling flat on your face.

I would also like to know when Tony chose to be gay?

1/8/2010 8:09:53 AM

Caustic Gnostic

...life here on earth is a vapor.

Buy a fucking thesaurus already.


1/8/2010 8:11:06 AM

Berny

So basically what you're saying is god wants us to be miserable because of the possibility of an afterlife? Just because you chose to drink the Kool-Aid of fundamentalist Christianity and become a self-loathing idiot in denial, doesn't mean other gay men and women should deny themselves a chance at happiness.
Being gay is not a choice no matter how many times morons like you say it is. I can no more choose to be gay than a gay man can choose to be straight.

1/8/2010 8:19:51 AM

JohnTheAtheist

I have no idea how someone could choose to be gay. Not knocking gays at all but I could never just decide that I liked dicks. That is asinine.

1/8/2010 8:26:11 AM

CailinBan

Does he not see that the very fact he says 'you may never have a heterosexual relationship and you may be single the rest of your life' is proof that he's now a repressed gay. If he was genuinely cured (or genuinely turned away from it, in the case of a choice) he'd be quite happy to have a heterosexual relationship.

And while I have you, Tony Horton, do you really, really, REALLY think, in your heart of hearts, that a god who created the whole universe gives a flying fuck who does what to whom in a bedroom? Sheesh, talk about micromanagement.

1/8/2010 8:41:11 AM

breakerslion

1. Those little experiments one has in their pre-teen/early teen years do not count.

2. If it was a choice for you, congratulations, you're bisexual.

3. Guilt fills collection plates, that's why your natural sex drive is alleged to be bad by Mother Church, M'kay?

4. Heaven is disputable at best. If God so loved the world, why did he wait thousands of years to inform the Chinese? The definition of "vaporware" is selling software that does not (yet) exist (and might never). I think Heaven qualifies, not observable life on earth.

Get over your fear of dying and tell the control-freaks to piss off. You'll be happier while you're alive.

1/8/2010 8:44:45 AM

Smilodon

Why do I have a feeling this person is lying?

1/8/2010 9:02:15 AM

GigaGuess

I wasn't born gay and neither were you. It was a path I chose, a sexually perverted choice on my behalf.
You're either lying or brainwashed. Or both, really.

If I was born that way, others, such as child molesters, drunkards, adulterers, thieves, could claim the same thing.
Perhaps, perhaps not. Wanna know the difference here? Homosexuality harms no one, as it's the act of two consenting adults.

Even if you think you were born that way, God still condemns it. He wouldn't make you that way and then condemn you to hell.
So...your argument is "You can't be born that way or else it would be unfair for God to hate it"? It's unthinkable that you just are what you are, and that it's not God that hates you, but rather the bigots of the world that can't stand someone different from them.

It was your choice, so turn from it.
I cannot choose not to be gay. I can choose to deny myself a fulfilling life, but that's as far as I can go.

Even if you still have the desire after you have repented, fellowship with Christians, personal prayer, and studying God's word will help you refrain and stay right with God.
The fact that you still have urges despite raising your hands and screaming hallelujiah should tell you that you are doing nothing but lying to yourself. Also, tell me, please. God is an omnipotent, omnscient, all loving, all powerful being. Tell me how something that sees and feels on that grand of a scale should be in any way moved by who I sleep with? And even if he is, how can an all-loving God condemn someone for something so...trivial?

You may never have a heterosexual relationship and you may be single the rest of your life...
That's your sales pitch?! Seriously?! I may never have a fulfilling relationship EVER, but it's okay, because I'll be good with a God that may or may not even exist? Go fuck yourself. You might feel better for it.

...but as stated above, life here on earth is a vapor.
WRONG! Until you can prove to me conclusively otherwise, this life is all I have. So if I'm going to live a life of self-denial and misery, you're gonna have to do a FUCK of a lot better than that.

We aren't here long but we have heaven to look forward to if we remain faithful unto death.
You poor, poor deluded fool...

1/8/2010 9:09:19 AM

perdurabo

self-loathing FTL.

1/8/2010 9:12:57 AM

deikuzutsu

But God knows everything, right?

So when he creates a baby, he knows if he or she will go to hell.

Therefore, he DOES make you a certain way and send you to hell. He is a sadistic bastard.

1/8/2010 9:15:19 AM



I bet this guy has Ted Haggard as his hero...

1/8/2010 9:16:40 AM

deikuzutsu

Sorry, double post.

1/8/2010 9:20:25 AM

Swede

Actually, some people inherit something that makes them more prone to be alcoholics. Alcoholicism, however, harms those around the alcoholic, as well as him or her. That makes it a BAD thing.
Homosexuality harms no-one, no more than left-handism or short-sighted-ism.

Mind your own business!

1/8/2010 9:22:14 AM

Boy Wonder

I bet Tony feels extra awesome being a homosexual who says exactly what fundies want him to say.

1/8/2010 9:33:01 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

"... He wouldn't make you that way and then condemn you to hell. ..."

O'Rlly?

Fundy God is supposedly all-knowing, knows the end from the beginning, etc. Yet, more than two-thirds of the human population of the world will supposedly go to Hell for not believing the "right" way — billions of people that Fundy God knew would be condemned to Hell before they were born, even before their great-great-great-grandmother to the nth degree was born.

Making people in ways he finds offensive just so they can be condemned to Hell seems to be standard operating procedure for Fundy God.

Sick bastard! His only redeeming quality is being non-existent!

1/8/2010 9:42:13 AM

Doctor Whom

He wouldn't make you that way and then condemn you to hell.

Romans chapter 9, bitch.

1/8/2010 9:49:07 AM

Mister Spak

Homosexuality is real. Your heaven and the spook you think lives in it is a vapor.

1/8/2010 9:56:38 AM

mikeytron

@caustic gnostic:
rooooofl, looks like he has one already... just doesn't know how to use it very well. life on earth is a "vapor", indeed.

get some therapy already, tony, ya self-loathing twit. i mean real, professional help, not this "ex-gay" "conversion therapy" quack-a-doo. people like you are why i'm studying to get my PsyD.

1/8/2010 10:04:48 AM

InvalidUsername

This is just fucking depressing.

1/8/2010 10:09:09 AM

David D.G.

Mister Spak nailed it.

"Stockholm Syndrome Award," anyone?


~David D.G.

1/8/2010 10:40:59 AM
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