My mother-in-law bought that book, and as someone who is usually a mindless sheep even she didn't like it. 95% of the book was about how evil the pharmaceutical industry is and the other 5% is a few quack cures he threw in the second run of the book because people complained that the first run didn't actually have any cures.
And yes, they are quack cures. For instance, he claims to cure heartburn or high stomach acidity, drink some vinegar (an acid!) Oh and he also claims that you can cure diabetes, but I don't remember what the "cure" is.
1/13/2010 3:46:41 PM
If "they" really didn't want you to know about the cures... how is it that Kevin can publish?
I'm not working for anyone, the guy is a quack. He's successful because of nit wits who part with their money without giving two seconds to think first.
1/13/2010 8:24:25 PM
> "They don't want you to know about. it's already one of the best selling non-fiction books of all time "
The amount of fail included in this one sentence fragment is enough to power all of Estonia for a year!
1/13/2010 10:18:51 PM
A little lesson on natural cures: Willow bark cures headaches. It's true. It was used for many years for that purpose. Unfortunately it also causes agonizing stomach pain. Along comes a scientist who was able to determine the base ingredients of willow bark and test each one. He eventually determined that Salicin was the active ingredient, and the precursor to Asprin was born. The lesson here is: Most drugs ARE natural cures! The only difference is that all the useless shit has been cut out.
1/13/2010 10:51:25 PM
Kid, you are a gullible little mark. If fox news told you to jump, you would ask "How high?"
1/13/2010 11:27:27 PM
I remember watching this quack's infomercial one night at about 3 am, talking about the book and it's cures. The fiancee and I laughed at the guy peddling his snake oil and we don't work for anybody in those fields (although we do start med school next year.) Wait a minute... scratch that. Snake oil likely has more curing properties than this guy's book.
1/14/2010 12:15:53 AM
Look there's lots of old fashioned "cures" that are slowly being forgotten, I'll give you that. Personally if I'm feeling a little nausious I'll nibble a few crackers rather than reach for the pepto or other drug. An ice pack and a nap is a great cure for a tension headache (if you have the time). But if you're on the job, somehow the boss frowns on nap-time, so you pop a couple of Tylenol and carry on.
Yes Type II diabetes can be cured if the person turns their life around. But this is only if they are insulin resistant and their poor pancreas hasn't quit on them. Also these people will never be able to go back to their slothful ways again or the diabetes will come back. Gestational diabetes is also a "curable" diabetes.
And always with the evil THEY.....ominous music
Here's a hint, if you want to know a good "natural health book". Look up St. Johns Wort, if it doesn't say go to a doctor if your feeling really down, and doesn't mention that it's an MAOI and therefore is high risk in large doses, put the book down and walk away. Also if it doesn't give warnings about long term usage of ginseng and licorice root, it's a dangerous book.
1/14/2010 12:27:35 AM
funny that you mention that, as a certain type of snake has an oil that can be used to treat arthritis.
1/14/2010 3:59:35 AM
It's ironic that an anti-establishment guy named himself after a fictional president that's put into power by a massive conspiracy.
1/14/2010 6:05:03 AM
Willow bark cures headaches. It's true. It was used for many years for that purpose. Unfortunately it also causes agonizing stomach pain.
Willow bark tea, however, is absolutely brilliant for soothing debilitating menstrual cramps. Only thing that worked for me.
1/14/2010 10:33:29 AM
Kevin is laughing all the way to the bank at you and idiots like you, who make him millions by buying his worthless book and other bogus crap, like homeopathics.
And the drug companies don't give a shit about him, because they know that most people have the common sense not to fall for his scam.
1/14/2010 3:29:50 PM
Of course ATS would buy into that hack's bullshit. For a group of people who are so antagonistic of "sheep" they sure are predictable.
1/14/2010 4:44:19 PM
Yeah, Kevin Trudeau speaks the truth when he talks about the pharmacutical companies and the medical professionals being in cahoots to keep you sick and themselves rich.
Him being in trouble with the FTC and the FDA you say? No, it isn't because he is marketing unsubstantiated and possibly dangerous advice as medical cures. No siree, you know the FTC and FDA are also in part of the conspiracy as well. You know they get a cut in keeping you sick.
I mean, after all, what's the harm?
1/14/2010 4:51:38 PM
Well, now we know what Kevin Trueau's log-in name is on Above Top Secret.
1/14/2010 6:21:43 PM
Blatant advertising in forums =/= conspiracy theories.
Although I'm sure the book in question is full of em...
1/14/2010 6:55:19 PM
Some natural treatments actually work (like ginger for nausea, aloe vera for sunburn, or the aforementioned willow bark for pain). However, no one is trying to suppress any natural cures. If the drug companies could patent the herbs themselves, they'd be all over it.
By the way, I have used willow bark many times and never experienced stomach pain (though I will admit that the stuff tastes terrible). Salicylic acid in general can cause stomach pain, depending upon the individual sensitivity and the amount taken. That is one reason why doctors recommend that you not take it half a dozen times a day for long periods of time.
1/14/2010 7:04:47 PM
Hey, know what they call "alternative medicine" whose efficacy has been proven by science?
They call it "medicine"
Kevin "I got fined $30+ million and am banned from trading in false cures" Trudeau is a con man, pure and simple.
1/14/2010 9:30:48 PM
Let me see, natural cure was in fashion until the XVIII century............and we all know what happened.
1/15/2010 2:23:14 AM
"Forbidden Knowledge" or "Dangerous Knowledge" or "What They Don't Want You To Know" is one of the greatest, most effective sales gimmicks ever - it gives things that are utterly banal a whole life of their own.
1/15/2010 6:08:22 AM
I can't feel too sorry for anyone who dies after using "alternative medicine" instead of conventional medicine, because if they're too stupid to use unproven and unscientific methods to fight disease, then a form of Darwanism is taking effect here. Stupid people taking themselves out of the gene pool. Unfortunately most of them are desperate for any cure and believe the quacks who say they can cure them.
I do feel bad for the many children who have died from these so-called alternative cures at the hands of their stupid parents, though.
But I just want to say to them, "Hey idiots! There's a reason we go to doctors when we're sick!"
1/15/2010 3:25:06 PM
I have gran mal epilepsy and if I miss even one tablet I can have up to 20 seizures a day.
How refreshing it is to know my medication is useless and my illness can be cured by eating organic vegetables!
1/15/2010 5:28:23 PM
Oh so if anyone says something bad about it it's because they're "IN on it" (And not that they're right)
I need sissors 61!
1/15/2010 10:01:33 PM
Kevin Trudeau is a fucking parasite.
(Sorry doubting thomas, he is right on one aspect. Drinking vinegar will drop your acidic stomach's pH... pH of vinegar is around 6, your stomach's is packing a pH of 3. But you know Milk of Magnesia exists which is a better treatment...)
Oh don't get me wrong, drug companies are pretty much "evil" defined. They are entirely reliant on fooling doctors into believing their products are better. The thing is we are hitting a wall of medicine.
Prior to the scientific method medicine moved very slowly. Very little advances were present between the renaissance and the roman medical tradition. After we see the growth of medicine. Biology in particular began to push the envelope really rapidly.
Now we have hit some sort of plateau. Discoveries and novel drugs are hard to come by. We are being limited by the current drug dynamic. So drug companies are forced to just repackage the same drug over and over again to turn a profit and carry on their research into improving existing drugs since striking out on your own is a good way to go bankrupt.
To do this they need to fool doctors. Sometimes all it takes is a lobster meal and a 5 star hotel room. Sometimes it needs some of the slickest statistics known to man. You can spin statistics, which is why countries tend to have independant testing like the FDA and NHS/BMA testing in the US and UK respectively. But once you pass the test (to see if your drug is harmful or not) then you can spin to doctors. And pharmaceutical companies are phenomenal at it.
But the thing is its a flaw of our system of capitalist pharmaceuticals. We need smarter doctors (I know. Its a tall order! :D)
1/16/2010 12:32:36 AM
Maybe people are trying to keep these "cures" down because many do more harm than good? Not to mention that many haven't been tested in laboratory conditions, so there's no proof that they work at all.
Some natural cures do work, but do the damn research first. That does include getting information from people who've had formal training.
1/17/2010 1:34:30 AM