Well that has to be just wrong with your Yule and all, and your Eoster or whatever, You people must have stolen the Christian Holidays and made them your own, how dare you!
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I am serious, How is it that Wiccans, Pagans and Christians have the same Holy days in common?
The Pagans must have stolen them and Paganized them.
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What is it? Opposites day today? That is pretty much the complete opposite of what happened.
Oh wait, it's the Sean Hannity forums... Nevermind.
POE - "I'm being Sarcastic, I really hate it when people insinuate that Jesus has anything to do with Pagan Holy days, it's offensive.
I hate when somebody says, '' Jesus is the reason for the season'' When he has nothing to do with it, in my good opinion. " source - http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1784151&page=3
Yeah, just like that Old Testament came and stole some ideas from the New Testament. Right?
Pagans hadn't heard of Christianity when they placed their seasonal celebrations, stupid.
If you look into history, you'll find that several Holy days were moved around at the time of the great Pagan Eradication Program.
The English word "easter" probably has pagan origins, as do the names of the days of the week. The holiday itself, though, is Christian, since the NT is pretty specific about when the Crucifixion occurred. Christmas is another matter. We have no idea when Jesus was born, and it's strongly suspected that December 25th was settled on because it coincided with the popular Roman celebration of Sol Invictus. This gave Christians a way to join the holiday season fun in a Christian context. Since then, various people have tried to invent other explanations for the date; e.g., Jesus was "conceived" on the vernal equinox (which was then - so it was claimed - around March 25th) and born nine months later.
Being a pagan myself, I can clarify a bit. It's pretty common knowledge that Christian holidays were scheduled as such to coincide with Pagan ones, and took a lot of traditions from them to help entice Pagans into converting. Christmas and Easter are 2 big ones.
In my religion, Christmas happens around the same time as Yule, which had lent it's name in such Christmas-associated things as the Yule log, and Yuletide. A bowl of porridge is left out as an offering to the spirits, much like milk and cookies are left out for Santa.
The Spring Equinox holiday is Ostara or Eostre, from where Easter draws its name. It celebrates the rebirth of nature, using symbols such as rabbits and eggs.
Reverse it and now it's correct. I mean, how can you steal a holiday from a religion that hasn't even been conceived yet?
And consider this: those holidays mark celestial events (solstices and equinoxes) as well as important times of the year for agricultural societies (birth of livestock, sowing the seeds of the crops, the beginning of the harvest and the end of the harvest).
This guy is joking. Somebody else already posted it, but I'll do it again...later he says,
"I'm being Sarcastic, I really hate it when people insinuate that Jesus has anything to do with Pagan Holy days, it's offensive.
I hate when somebody says, '' Jesus is the reason for the season'' When he has nothing to do with it, in my good opinion."
@John
"The English word 'easter' probably has pagan origins, as do the names of the days of the week. The holiday itself, though, is Christian, since the NT is pretty specific about when the Crucifixion occurred."
Yeah, and eggs and bunnies have what to do with Jesus?
eggs- symbol of fertility
The timing of the holiday may be biblical, but the practices are pagan spring fertility rites.
@John -
I basically explained the first 2/3 of your post on the first page. Easter is from the Norse holiday Eostre, celebrated with rabbits and eggs as signs of the rebirth of nature.
Also, most of the days of the week are named after Norse Pagan gods
Re: Jacob_Rising's post
WHY YOU LOW-LIFE, PATHETIC, PISS POOR, SORRY-EXCUSE-FOR-SPERM-AND-EGG, SOB!!! *stops to breathe*
Love and Best Wishes
Right. The pagans, who existed thousands of years before Christ, stole all the holidays that would have been important to him. Just to piss YOU off.
Because Christ was all about the Christmas trees and Easter eggs. Nothing Druish about those, no sir.
" Sean Hannity Forums "
Where else?
Nope, it's the other way around. Yule, Saturnalia and numerous other midwinter festivals were Christianised as a quick attempt at conversion. Nobody really knows when Jesus was born. Some suggest Spring, some suggest August.
Ditto for Spring celebrations. Why does Easter have no fixed date? It occurs the first Sunday after the first full moon, after the Spring Equinox. Doesn't that suggest it was co-opted by the Church from pre-christian cultures.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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