[Re. a transgender woman.]
God knows he created this person as a male (but definitely NOT a man!). Now he's a male that mutilated the body the Lord provided him. He'll have to answer for those actions at the Judgement!
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By that logic, every kind of surgery done is 'mutilating the body the Lord provided'. So, in case of appendicitis, bad eyesight, malformations of all kinds, that giant growth in the middle of your forehead, all those things are Godgiven and you're going to live with (or die by) it dammit!
Or maybe...just maybe. When judgment day comes it will turn out you are wrong, you know considering the book you live your life by has no evidence whatsoever to suggest you should believe it, and it turns out god loves transgenders and hates people like you. Then who will be laughing insane religious man?
There was a time when any kind of surgery was considered to be mutilating the body God gave a person. Lots of people died from surgically treatable injuries and diseases. Then anesthesia was developed, superstition was put aside, and the life expectancy increased.
Hmm...I guess that means that displeasing God makes him grant you a longer life.
"For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage (or have made themselves eunuchs) because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."
Matthew 19:12
Oh and btw, that's Jesus speaking there. ;)
Why do you care so much to make mention of it yourself, huh?
Leave the judging job to God, and don't become a transexual yourself if you are so bothered by it.
He'll have to answer for those actions at the Judgement!
Yeah, I bet Allah and her will have a right good laugh about it...oh wait, that's not what you meant, is it?
Hold on..this person is a male but NOT a man, that means if god made man in his own image he fucked up AGAIN. How can a male not be a man? also why should god punish man for something he......ohhhhh wait ive got yer hes done this kinda thing before has'nt he. your god IS a cheeky litle scamp is'nt he
And let me guess, you're there to make sure he gets "judged" sooner, right? After all, why wait for God to do it when you can turn up your little nose NOW and save him the trouble?
The transgendered have enough shit to put up with as it is.
Wait...this person felt so miserable in their own skin that they had a sex change and your god is going to PUNISH them for that? Wow, he's a colossal douchebag and so are you.
Seriously, there could never be enough insults heaped upon these ignorant, hateful bigots.
If your God botched it by puting a woman's soul in a man's body, it's HIS fault, not the poor human's. God is the "infallible" one, remember?
Oh, and I guess I'm going to hell for choosing my life over a uterus full of tumors and bleeding for two straight weeks every month. I'm not a real woman any more, ya know, since I can't pump out babbies. FUCK. YOU.
One question: Have you been circumcised?
Anywho, if god creates people, he fucks up a lot. I'm not talking about transgender people, I'm talking about harelips, retardation, missing body parts... soo fuck your god!
I REALLY don't understand what the big deal is with fundies and the transgendered. If God makes a kid with a cleft lip, it's a sign of a fallen world, and it's fine for that kid to get it sewn up by a surgeon. But if God puts a woman into a male body or vice versa, it's an abomination to have that surgically rectified? They don't have any Biblical support for this attitude, it's just plain old prejudice disguised as moral indignation.
[Re: A man born without an arm who now has a prosthetic arm]
God knows he created this person as a one-armed male (but definitely NOT a man!). Now he's a one-armed man that mutilated the body the Lord provided him. He'll have to answer for those actions at the Judgement!
Fixed.
Seriously, let me guess: you're against medicine too because God gave you cancer and you're mutilating the beautiful body he gave you if you get rid of the cancer cells?
Uh.... Jesus said that it's A-okay to cut your dick off.
Matthew
19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
God will have to answer for creating people who don't feel that they're in the right body.
Btw, the whole "no mutilating the body" thing set back surgery, anatomical studies, medicine, forensics and the mortuary sciences by a few centuries.
I've remarked before about how utterly perverse it is that these demented simpletons, who insist that anything "worldly" is of no consequence and that only the "soul" matters, also tend to insist that one's gender identity should be determined exclusively based on whether one has a penis or not (and penises are about as worldly an item as you can get), not on the state of one's mind (which is the closest thing to a soul that can unequivocably be said to exist, cogito etc).
"God knows he created this person as a male"
Then I put it to you that God also knew that this person feels female and indeed wants to be female and stuff? So why did god (knowing that if this person was born male, they would want to have a sex change) give him a male body? to fuck with him/her?
These transpeople go through a LOT of stress in life first in accepting who they are and when in transition and after. They go through life trying to be accepted and failing due to some close minded people giving them no respect. Not only that but your God supposedly created them that way (after all he knew everything that was going to happen, ever). Which means when they die they'd be judged according to how your God supposedly made them? Then live in suffering for eternity for the "sin" of being created that way and wanting to change.
Yeah you people are so loving.
An omniscient being condemns trans people basically for existing? So on judgement day, with infinite wisdom he'll say "You were a tranny and that's fucking gross! Into the lake of fire with you, freak!"
Following your logic, he mutilated his body when he underwent whatever operation it was necessary to save his life. After all, God makes our appendixes to swell, the accidents that defigure our faces......................as well as the quantity of hormones and the lack of organs that determine your status.
If I were God, the bible would be a test. If you use it to back up your selfish fantasies, indoctrinate your children into a death cult, and hate others for wanting happiness like anyone else does... You would fail that test as hard as you possibly could. But then, I wouldn't need a test. I'd just look at this post and make you a transsexual.
Confused?
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