Nothing useful has even been designed or built using relativity. If you want to look and look and look for a counterexample then you'll be wasting your time. I'm not going to waste mine. This is my final reply on this topic for now. Do something logical, such as editing the Bible, and after benefiting from that experience we can revisit this issue in a month or so. [Emphasis added]
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Off the top of my head, GPS satellites. They orbit Earth, hence move faster, hence time is infinitesimally faster for them. But it is taken into account so the time on the satellite and that on the ground don't get out of synch.
@ #1102034
I really hope that's true. It's impossible for me to wrap my brain around someone this educated being this stupid.
Either that or he's going to write a tell all book about the things his mommy did to him to fuck him up this badly.
"I am telling you Schlafly is a Poe"
I've been thinking this for a while now.
Wikipedia was tired of the conservatards mucking up their pages so they got together and created Conservapedia to drive them away. Then realizing their success they decided to go for ultimate lulz and troll and poe them for our amusement.
It's like Landover Baptist except no one has seen behind the curtain yet.
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Revelation 22:18-19
You are Satans tool Andy...
I'm guessing he meant editing the Bible entry on Conservapedia.
The only alternative is that he is entering a new phase of insanity and is having delusions of godhood.
ANDYJESUSCHRISTGODSCHLAFLY
Well, at least he's finally admitting the true goals of the 'Conservative Bible Project'.
Not that anyone (atheist, Christian, liberal or conservative) should be shocked by this revelation.
In addition to the already mentioned GPS systems, nuclear physics relies heavily on the theory of special relativity. For better or worse, this is essential for nuclear weapons and power plants. Apparently Andy denies this.
Even if there wasn't any applications for relativity (again, there are) it's still how nature works. If you care about truth or reality....oh, I see.
I thought the Bible was the infallable, perfect word of God.
Free electron lasers . A tunable laser source used in medicine and metallurgy.
Oh, and the military thinks they may be useful in shooting down enemy missiles. I'm sure Andy would approve of that if it weren't all "evilutionist propaganda."
Do something logical, such as editing the Bible
What like editing all the crap out? There'd be nothing left.
"Nothing useful has even been designed or built using relativity."
GPS
" If you want to look and look and look for a counterexample then you'll be wasting your time. I'm not going to waste mine."
I wasted about 2 seconds thinking of that example.
Andy Schlafly: Liar, Lunatic or Lord?
Okay, we can rule out Lord. However, Poe or clinically insane? I lean heavily towards the latter. Most of the crazy comments posted here are made in the back waters of Conservapedia talk pages, where it's often not seen by many. As mentioned, his mother made a career fighting fundie causes. And he (quite unfortunately) "teaches" children his crazy brand of Christianity.
However, I am convinced that there are many (not so well hidden) Poes on Conservapedia. In fact, Andy's most ardent supporters have turned out to be people bent on making conservapedia look as ridiculous as possible (see http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Bugler ). By supporting Andy they both achieve this goal and rise quickly up the ranks in the Stalinist state of Conservapedia.
Actually, he could be on to something.
The bible really does need a decent editors hand on it. A bit of work to start bringing the narrative together, removing the contradictions, getting rid of some of the various authors' self-inserts and Mary-Sues...
Why, I'd bet with some judicious trimming you could make a reasonably literate and readable novella from it.
(please excuse the Godwin in advance, but is very relevant in this case):
"Nothing useful has even been designed or built using relativity"
O RLY? It was that attitude that led the Nazis' 'Heavy Water'(Deuterium)- based atom bomb research to be at least a year behind the US's Manhattan Project, which used fissile material. Hitler thought the Third Reich could do without 'Jew Science', thus Albert Einstein was recruited to supply the vital equations necessary for Oppenheimer's research. And do you know what the basis of said equations is, Andy Schaftafly?:
E=MC²
Without that, the Manhattan Project wouldn't have gotten off the drawing board stage, the Nazis may have had a superweapon to use against their enemy. And our world would be a very different place today.
And even if their Deuterium-based bomb had failed, the USSR wouldn't be fussed over the religion/lack of such of the scientists they got hold of after WWII. They would have nuclear weapons.
And the world would be a very different place today. Certainly the USA. Your beliefs - both political & spiritual - wouldn't exist, Andy.
Now, what was that about 'Nothing useful has even been designed or built using relativity'...?
"Do something logical, such as editing the Bible,"
Can I have the job? I promise I'll be ruthless in my editing. I was thinking something along the lines of editing out all but the words, "God" "Does" "Not" "Exist."
How's that strike you, Andy?
Andy Schlafly, after being handed his ass repeatedly in this argument, has resorted to the default creationist fall back position, eyes closed, fingers in the ears, chanting, "La-La-La, I can't hear you."
"Rev 22:18,19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
I don't think editing the bible is a very good thing to do, Andy.
Nothing useful has even been designed or built using relativity.
Although flat screens are gradually replacing CRTs, the CRT has for the last 60 or 70 years, been part of every TV and computer on the planet, as well as many medical and industrial devices. The CRT must be corrected in its design for the relativistic effect of increased mass of the electron in order to be focused properly because the electron stream moves at a significant fraction of the speed of light.
Do something logical, such as editing the Bible.
Yeah that's incredibly logical seeing how the bible tells you to not fuck with it...
So.... editing the inerrant word of god is okay to you? Then it's not the inerrant word of god, your god is proven false, and we can all happily go on our way because Christianity has been proven to be nothing more than an excuse to be a douche and get away with it.
Thank you, Andy. You have done this world a favor.
Hey Andy, doesn't the last few scriptures in the bible basically say DON'T CHANGE THESE WORDS OR ELSE. Looks like you're screwed there guy.
Revelation 22:18,19
18. I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book:
19. and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.
@ Fedup
More like Forrest Gump: "That's all I have to say about that."
"Do something logical, such as editing the Bible "
There's really nothing else to say except: HAHAHAHAHA!
Isn't this a repost?
Meh, still batshit.
"Doubting Thomas
"Rev 22:18,19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
I don't think editing the bible is a very good thing to do, Andy"
Maybe that's why it's taking so long. He's got to get all the 'thou shall not mess with this book' stuff out first. And it's ironic that verse is in English in the first place (words are changed in translation, in order particularly)
Why do I get the somewhat deranged mental image of Mr Schafly tied up to a table, & a powerful laser beam approaching a certain part of his anatomy, a la Goldfinger...?"So you expect me to recant my beliefs regarding the "theory" of Relativity...?"
@G. Fieendish
"Why do I get the somewhat deranged mental image of Mr Schafly tied up to a table, & a powerful laser beam approaching a certain part of his anatomy, a la Goldfinger...? So you expect me to recant my beliefs regarding the "theory" of Relativity...? " No, Mr Schlafly, I expect you to die... "
Stop it, you're turning me on.
I can't be the only one who thought of this:
"What are we up to, sweetheart?"
Isn't it said to be a sin to add to or subtract from the Bible? Isn't the Bible said to be the Perfect Word of God?
However, editing the Bible sounds very logical, as it's full of contradictions, long-winded begats, lists of things for which to make a burnt offering, and historical inconsistencies, etc etc.
In a month or so we'll be even more convinced that the Bible is the very errant word of ancient goat-herders, who needed something by which to control the masses.
"Do something logical, such as editing the Bible,"
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