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Go back and study American history. The nation is about religious freedom.....for Christians.
[9/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 25
And he has the gall to say that someone ELSE needs a history lesson?
This guy needs to read what the Constitution ACTUALLY says.
2/28/2006 3:25:00 PM
Yes, and for other religions as well. \"Freedom of Religion\" doesn't apply ONLY to you however, as I think you are implying. That is wrong. It is obvious that you are the one with the need of a refresher course.
7/3/2006 7:49:31 AM
You know, I cannot find the part of the First Amendment that says \"The people shall be free to worship any way they choose, so long as they worship this God in this way.\"
7/3/2006 5:40:01 PM
And atheists and agnostics, since \"freedom of religion\" also means \"freedom FROM religion.\"
And so on.
And there's a reason it was done that way: James Madison had observed the activities of numerous nations which enforced Christianity in Europe, and that those nations were anything but virtuous and pious. In fact, they were wide open to corruption and abuse of power. Total freedom of, and freedom from, religion was the only way to avoid that in America.
2/11/2007 3:50:17 AM
says it best.
4/3/2007 6:12:31 PM
Treaty of Tripoli, bitch!
First Amendment, bitch!
4/3/2007 6:13:49 PM
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
That includes EVERYONE's religion.
2/21/2008 2:44:01 AM
No, you can't have a theocratic wingnutocracy.
2/21/2008 3:08:47 AM
I think the original Americans would agree with that statement.
2/21/2008 7:57:25 AM
You only think that because you came first...
2/21/2008 11:16:50 AM
Despite the fact America has arguabley the best constitution in the world for personal freedom, fundies seem determined to want a theocratic nightmare instead! Also they need to READ it!
This Huckabee guy,by the way, just heard a speech he made where he says "we need to change the constitution and return to a nation with the laws and rules of the Bible" Aren't your presidents sworn to uphold the constitution?
2/21/2008 12:35:41 PM
Well, but then we decided other religions should be allowed to live here too.
And other people, which was only fair since we stole the USA from the natives, who it turns out weren't even Indians.
4/17/2008 12:13:53 PM
Well, the Puritans thought so. They're all dead now.
4/17/2008 5:06:01 PM
NO. It's for everyone!
8/31/2008 10:16:55 AM
1984 called, the Ministry of Truth would like to hire you.
EDIT: Oh, Animal Farm called as well, they'd like to have some compensation for you using their "some more equal then others" rule.
11/1/2009 7:28:21 PM
laughable. just laughable. freedom mean nothing nowadays? is it just a pretty word now?
11/1/2009 9:44:44 PM
Has this guy even HEARD of the Constitution?
11/2/2009 3:13:58 AM
"Go back and study American history. The nation is about religious freedom.....for Christians."
Go back and study YOUR history, American fundies (and I'm British. What does that tell you?). It was one of your country's Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson, who said:
'Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear'
"There is more need for lighthouses in our country than churches."
"But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
And another of your Founding Fathers, James Madison, said:
'Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect'
'In no instance have... the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people'
And was it not George Washington himself, who said:
'The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion'
Like I say, it speaks volumes of a certain section of a country's population who doesn't know what it's country's founders said, or the meaning behind their words.
Nor about the very document they drew up, the very basis of their nation.
Or that people outside their country know more about such.
"The nation is about religious freedom.....for Christians."
Should we expect anything less from right-wing religious freaks. Who clearly know
about their own Constitution. Who voted in a right-wing fundy freak of a president who once said about said Constitution:
'It's just a
piece of paper!'
Says so much about George Dumbya Bush (relative to the early presidents - the Founding Fathers themselves - who wanted to create a true haven & bastion of Freedom).
And those who voted for him.
11/2/2009 9:07:53 AM
Does that include the Catholics who founded Maryland?
11/2/2009 9:36:13 AM
In a theocratic nightmare, this statement, this statement is true. But not in real life. As much as fundies would love to return to an age where all non-Christians and ex-Christians(like myself) are eligible for execution, this will remain nothing more than a wet dream for B.B.A.B.s.
8/7/2010 1:40:10 PM
I did study American history.
It's about religious freedom for everyone.
8/7/2010 1:48:34 PM
Nope! Many of the people who founded the US had fled from religious persecution in Europe, and didn't want to experience the same thing again, or inflict it upon others.
8/7/2010 1:54:28 PM
In terms of actual American history, rather than the , much more popular, American mythology that so many appear to subscribe to, this statement is reasonably accurate.
3/20/2012 9:20:55 AM
that's like being free to choose what flavor of ice cream you want while there's only one flavor in stock.
4/18/2012 6:16:29 AM
Take your own advice, liar.
5/14/2012 1:06:43 PM