the Jews didnt stand up with banners and spew race hate at our soldiers,
the Jews didnt attempt to inflict its laws rules or religion us
the Jews help economy flourish and prosper, not burden it
the Jews live along side us, they may not integrate but they do communicate
Funny, all the Muslims I know match this description as well. Still not seeing the difference.
I have never meet Muslim that blah blah blah
That's nice, but the Muslims you've met are not a representative sample of all Muslims everywhere.
1/26/2010 5:08:17 PM
I disagree with giving Muslims (or any other religion) special rights or privileges. I strongly disagree with the increasing tendency to give Muslims special courts or to inflict Sharia law on the countries where they settle in large numbers. I despise Islam. Even more so than Christianity, it is evil, violent, oppressive and just plain vile.
I do not have any ill feelings towards individual Muslims and I do not think they should be mistreated or discriminated against. If people were hunting them down, harming them, killing them just because of their religion...yeah, I might. I might do something to help them. I think they should be free to believe whatever they want, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. If they are practicing their religion and minding their own business, then they should be protected the same as anyone else.
1/26/2010 5:38:11 PM
The thing about this korky237 guy is that many people can see his point: I think he's got the right idea, for example.
But they (I) don't agree with him so far as to say that I wouldn't shelter any Muslim, but we do agree with him when he refers to the extremists.
My guess/hope is that he IS referring exclusively to the extremists. And that's the other problem.
People like the BNP seem perfectly normal and impartial on the surface, and many assume that when they say "Kick the Muslims out" that Griffin only means the extremists, where he really means anyone of any religion so long as they aren't white. By the time they realise, they're probably too absorbed to care anyway.
And, thanks to Nick Griffin and Co., anyone who DOES voice a rational, impartial opinion -- usually advocating the deportation of extremists -- they get shouted down as an inciter of religious hatred (or worse, a racist, even though it has nowt to do with race!).
So thanks to those twats at the BNP, who claim to speak for a working-class Briton like me, who isn't Islamophobic, I look like a narrow minded cunt every time I voice my opinion, no matter how even-handed it is.
They've turned "NO to extremists" into "KILL WOGS". I loathe them.
1/26/2010 5:49:55 PM
I see your point about the Zionists (absolutely true), but Israel is the Jews' home, and the Palestinians have no right to take it over. Of course, they have every right to go live there, work and so on but it isn't THEIR country. That is something they need to realise before they start another jihad.
That being said, while it is the home of MODERN Jews, they have no right to be there either, because hat land belonged to the Hittites (if the OT is true, which I doubt).
1/26/2010 5:53:21 PM
I hope in any event of that magnitude that I would be brave enough to shelter who ever was be persecuted. I do believe that most Muslims are not fanatical but just normal people who want to live a happy and prosperous life.
I may not agree with their religion or any religion at all, but they are human beings and deserve to be treated as such.
1/26/2010 5:58:04 PM
>>@ BobsOldSocks #1104004
Hoi. You leave Northern Ireland out of this!
1/26/2010 6:04:43 PM
The Jews were welcome in the Holy Land, together with the Christians whenever they wanted to. It was the Romans that kicked them out, but when the Muslims took over Jerusalem that ban was lifted. Aftwards, everytime the Christians in Europe kicked out the Jews, they went back to Jerusalem and such, as was allowed by the Muslims.
Fact is that the whole Israel/Palestine debacle resulted from the British being completely unfair and negating on their promises to the Arabs who were already living there. After doing that, they then decided to give in to Jewish terror campaigns against British forces and targets and left and voila: the Jewish State of Israel was born. Denying that Israel was born partly due to the Jewish terror campaigns against the Arab Christians and Muslims and British Christians is a denial of history.
Its a tense situation right now. It is made worse by both sides acting like retards, fucking each other up.
And no, until ppl like korky stand up and do the same to the Christian BNP and the various other religious groups, I will call him a fucking racist or fundie or whatever I can think of and tar him with the Nazi insult
1/26/2010 6:46:49 PM
Scotland? Scotland has about of a warlike legacy as the middle East. I'd hate to imagine how that would end.
Oh and the Crusades were partly because the "Eastern Roman Empire" was getting beat up by the Muslims. Of course by then it was a shadow of it's former self and basically had it coming to them.
1/26/2010 7:57:25 PM
How lucky Korky237 is to be British. A nation famous for it's inhabitants chameleon like ability to seamlessly integrate into the society of whichever country they happen to be in.
You can walk the streets of any city in any former British imperial colony and you would be hard pressed to find any evidence that the British were ever there, not in terms of language, architecture, statuary, nothing.
In fact you would have to be a detective of holmesian proportions to find a single British person living on the Costas of Spain, so efficiently do they blend in and embrace the local culture.
1/26/2010 8:23:03 PM
I'd shelter anyone, including all you christians. Yes, I know, I'm an atheist and I'm better than you, so deal with it!
1/26/2010 9:34:00 PM
Felis >:3 -
Respectfully, you've got your point about Palestinians in Israel a tad backwards. That region was the home of the Jews about 2000 years ago, but the Romans destroyed Israel and dispersed many of them. The modern day Palestinians didn't come out of nowhere - they are native to those lands.
Jews were largely welcome throughout the Middle East, including in the lands known as "Palestine", throughout the time of the Caliphates and the Ottoman Empire. The Jewish presence in Palestine began to grow in the wake of 19th Century and 20th Century Zionist immigration. After a certain point, the Jews there declared the Israeli state and basically kicked the Palestinians to the wayside. The Palestinians that weren't kicked out are treated like second class citizens in their ancestral lands.
I have nothing against Israel personally but it is important to remember that the Palestinians got screwed royally. They are not immigrants into the area - they are akin to the Native Americans here in the US.
1/27/2010 12:25:53 AM
So much hate for people you don't even know.
1/27/2010 1:47:03 AM
I would shelter or assist anyone being hunted down and killed unless:
1. I was the one doing the killing for whatever messed up reason.
2. I was also being hunted down and killed. My shelter isn't much good then.
1/27/2010 3:22:20 AM
Wait, the Final Solution was, if I remember well, designed because one Jew killed a German diplomat in Paris. And did you hear about Dreyfuss affair?. One Jew was wrongly accused, yes, but the real perpetrator was half Jew then. Same excuses, DIFFERENT TIMES.
1/27/2010 4:53:37 AM
"I Would rather give the Israelis Scotland as their new holy-land, in exchange for the deportation of every single Muslim in our country, not that Israel would want Scotland"
Scotland is yours to give? I think the Scottish would like to have a word with you.
"they do not want British culture, they are looking at us as Infidels"
in·fi·del (nf-dl, -dl)
1. Offensive An unbeliever with respect to a particular religion, especially Christianity or Islam.
2. One who has no religious beliefs.
3. One who doubts or rejects a particular doctrine, system, or principle.
Ahem! Looks like you are looking at them in exactly the same way.
1/27/2010 7:34:00 AM
"I have never meet Muslim that wants to be British"
British boxer (and Team GB member & silver medallist in the 2004 Athens Olympics) Amir Khan (and especially his father) would like a word with you:
I love the smell of destroyed arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.
"You can walk the streets of any city in any former British imperial colony and you would be hard pressed to find any evidence that the British were ever there, not in terms of language, architecture, statuary, nothing."
Two words: India. Cricket:
1/27/2010 7:36:46 AM
Hence the "/sarcasm" tag at the end.
1/27/2010 8:36:02 AM
Ah, gotcha. Forgot about that. Well, spank me with wet celery and call me Dorothy! :P
1/27/2010 8:44:57 AM
#1103767 - Heck, it's not just American culture us Brits sometimes try to imitate. There's a whole bunch of us who try to imitate Japanese culture. When I start living on my own, I'm going to have a Japanese futon, I'm going to have a low table and sit on cushions to eat, and I'm teaching myself to use chopsticks - and I know I'm not the only one.
1/27/2010 10:01:12 AM
> I have never meet Muslim that wants to be British, only use Britain, and I work within a
> School that has hundreds, they do not want British culture, they are looking at us as
> Infidels, these heathen third world people are using the system to impregnate our culture and
> cry like babies that we persecute them
I pity any schoolkid who has your example to look up to, for many, many reasons.
@HazelHolly: Futon and chopsticks, I'm way ahead of you there! Yojimbo is on. Pass the sake...
1/27/2010 12:07:30 PM
Islamic scots want a word with you.
1/27/2010 1:44:45 PM
This should be highly offensive to anyone, but especially Muslims and Scots.
1/27/2010 4:07:25 PM
I didn't say anything about Israel-Palestine relations. TBH I agree with what you're saying, BTW.
3/8/2010 4:44:44 AM
I have never meet Muslim that wants to be British, only use Britain, and I work within a School that has hundreds, they do not want British culture, they are looking at us as Infidels, these heathen third world people are using the system to impregnate our culture and cry like babies that we persecute them,
Funny, you can say the same thing about Christians.
3/8/2010 7:23:40 AM