We can (and must) destroy the credibility of the left...marginalize and humiliate them until "progressives" would rather be caught torturing small animals and children rather than be labeled a "liberal".
This is possible (ever heard of "shunning"?), as not that many years ago being called a communist was akin to being fingered as the love child of Adolf and Eva.
The Union forever!
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Because just ignoring the problem has worked SO well in the past.
It's not like all these progressive groups are popping up to try to fix legitimate problems in society, right?
We can (and must) destroy the credibility of the left...marginalize and humiliate them until "progressives" would rather be caught torturing small animals and children rather than be labeled a "liberal".
But I thought you conservatives already believed that.
Well you've already destroyed the credibility of the right, so why would you be content to stop there? And I'm certain that it is definitely true that you personally would rather be known as a child torturer than be labeled as a Liberal.
Trouble with your plan though is that a lot of people would probably prefer to be humiliated or shunned by known dolts and morons than admit to being a rabid cretin high on ignorance and irrationality. Though it's difficult to see how someone could be humiliated by morons, since morons are walking exemplars of pure self-humiliation and doltishness anyway, it would like trying to be humiliated by a backward rabbit. And most people would be quite grateful to be shunned by morons, in reality, yes I know, reality is a bit of a touchy subject for you Wyatt's Torch, but anyway, in reality, most of the shunning will be by the Liberals of the morons in any case.
Just because you enjoy being doped-up on stupidity it doesn't mean that Liberals will. That's one cunning plan that's going nowhere rapidly.
Ah, the old "my country, love it or leave it" crowd.
You know, asshole, if it hadn't been for progressives, you people would be just another bunch of provinces that are part of Canada.
No, Wyatt, it's no longer possible. The fifties are dead, and even IN the fifties, your utopian society never existed.
You keep trying to, and all you're doing is continuing to make asses of yourselves. I really consider myself a moderate who only leans a little to the left, I don't like the extremist views if either side, but I'll take being labeled a liberal over being labeled a conservative any day.
Oh, and I have plenty of friends and relatives who are conservative, including a couple who have posted a few things on my Facebook page that would give some of our top FSTDT fundies a run for their money, and they don't think any less of me because of my beliefs. In fact we kind of enjoy pushing each others buttons.
"We can (and must) destroy the credibility of the left...marginalize and humiliate them"
That was done decades ago, by Joseph McCarthy. Look what happened to all those innocent people destroyed by his vile witchhunts & show-trials. But then of course, the whole thing blew up in his face; he was ultimately marginalised and humiliated by his own side.
Can you say 'Hubris', Wyatt's Torch?
"many years ago being called a communist was akin to being fingered as the love child of Adolf and Eva."
Which is why I say America needs a healthy dose of 'Reverse McCarthyism': witchhunts & show-trials (but at least backed up by evidence & facts) to humiliate and ultimately destroy the right-wing in the US. To the extent that just as 'Communist' became a dirty word in the 50s, 'Right-Winger' and 'Conservative' should be the new dirty words. Anyone remotely right-wing to be given dirty looks, spat upon & beaten up. Neo-Nazis to be ghettoised, then harassed and treated as the subhumans they really are by an ultra-left-wing equivalent of the KKK.
Call it Sauce for the Goose.
...what? Don't like that idea Moonbatshitheads? Too extreme for you? Now you know how all those innocent people thought of as 'Communists' and black people felt. If you don't want the above to come to pass, stop being right-wing.
It wouldn't kill you to be left-wing. I am. I'm still here.
Threats of destruction: Check
Torture of puppies/babies reference: Check
Ooh! Communism!: Check
Hitler: Check
But... But, where is all the bible humping?
Wait, here you are talking about marginalizing, humiliating, and shunning people you disagree with, and then you have the audacity to call this a "union?"
Irony meter just broke.
With how fractured the GOP's become (and with people like Beck and Limbaugh attacking moderate Republicians for not being 'conservative' enough) this appears to be backfiring and splitting the party
Also:"let's change the words liberal and progressive to mean evil despots" approach again.
People! This is like Ebonics. You can change the meaning of those words (superficially) but that new meaning will mean nothing outside your group.
The rest of us will just think you're uneducated and don't understand English
"We can (and must) destroy the credibility of the left...marginalize and humiliate them until "progressives" would rather be caught torturing small animals and children rather than be labeled a "liberal"."
So, you want them to come down to the point your side is at?
"This is possible (ever heard of "shunning"?), as not that many years ago being called a communist was akin to being fingered as the love child of Adolf and Eva."
And then the McCarthy era ended and everyone moved on.
Well, almost everyone.
"The Union forever!"
You aren't really sure what a Union is, are you? You can't exactly say, "The Union forever!" and then tell everyone else to sit down, shut up or get out, else you're no longer united.
Translation: "Everybody thinks the Republicans are a bunch of Fascist pedophiles and we have no positive policies to promote, so the only thing we can do is yell "liberal, Muslim, Kenyan and 9-11" and hope it scares people into voting for conservatives who are going to screw them over and fuck up the country (again)."
SaneChick said:
Most Americans don't actually think the McCarthy era is something to brag about...
Actually, quite a huge part of todays right wing Americans actually think McCharty did a good job and was justified in his actions but think he didn't go far enough.
Todays US right wingers are for all practical purposes not very different from the right wingers of Europe in the late thirties. If there is any difference, it must be that the US right wingers are far less educated and intelligent than their European counterparts were.
See, I don't bloody CARE if the right wants to hate me for being liberal.
I'm a queer pagan Arab. The right hating me for POLITICS is a step UP.
Flippancy aside...you really cannot destroy the credibility of people who believe in progress. The funny thing is, for all of their delusions that we abort all our babies and therefore they'll win on demographic strength, the right will LOSE on demographic strength. They're on average older and less diverse. Sure, there are Young Republicans, but I like to say at my campus, "Oh look, the Republican Club is tabling. With all three of their members." Aging conservatives will soon lose ground to young moderates and liberals. The good thing about being a progressive is, since progress is inevitable, you're on the winning side even if it takes a long time.
Destroying peoples' credibility, marginalizing and humiliating them, making them feel like scum...
This must be that "Christian love" I've heard so much about lately.
...he love child of Adolf and Eva.
Why did I imagine Hitler and EVA unit 01 "getting it on" when I saw that?
Too much internet I guess.
@Berny
"You know, asshole, if it hadn't been for progressives, you people would be just another bunch of provinces that are part of Canada."
And they'd be better off. WE wouldn't, but they would.
"marginalize and humiliate them until "progressives" would rather be caught torturing small animals and children"
We left-wingers can do the same too:
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See? Personal slurs and black propaganda can be fun!
Doesn't sound too good when the glove's on the other foot eh, Moonbatshitheads, Neocons & Religious Right types?
Especially when the policies of Dick(head) Cheney's immediate superior were responsible for the actual murders of innocent children in Iraq & Afghanistan.
And you right-wingers are the love-children of Adolf & Eva. You of the Religious Right = Nazis after all.
Actually, from what I've seen, this has worked quite well... or have you heard of any Democrats calling themselves "liberal" lately? Well, maybe that's because they're not actually liberal any more, but even the hard core liberal folks seem to prefer the word "progressive" now, and since FOX has been using that as a slur, it has declined in use too.
I see.
Can't actually succeed in winning in a logical argument/debate, so knock the person down instead.
Thanks for helping us do our job (to "marginalize" idiotic hyperbole like yours.)
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