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[About the cold war.]

BB, I know the 'official' version of the 'cold war' history, and, that as usual, it's a crock of BS. The cold war was only a mental war. At no time, was there any danger of it morphing into a real war. It was a conspiracy between the American leaders and Stalin to 'pretend' to almost be about to go to war so they could keep the wartime taxes and military expenditures high. Both militaries like to play 'war games' but not for real. KennyB

KennyB, Unexplained-Mysteries 28 Comments [1/27/2010 10:23:21 AM]
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Occam fail!

1/27/2010 10:43:34 AM


This hypothesis of yours has more holes than the moon.

1/27/2010 11:02:56 AM


Yep, that's why the cold war really started AFTER Stalin died.

I personally think it was the tares. Yep, obviously the tares to weaken us. Oh wait, that makes no sense. Guess I was just keeping with the theme of these jokes.

Oh, you were being serious...

1/27/2010 11:07:22 AM

Doubting Thomas

Guess the Cuban Missle Crisis was all just a big show, then? And with two superpowers armed with nuclear weapons, I wouldn't say there was no danger of it morphing into a real war. Especially since on occasion reconnaissance planes were shot down.

1/27/2010 11:17:47 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

Um, Mr. KennyB? My father, who flew bombers in WWII, Korea, Southeast Asia, and during the Cold War, would probably disagree with you. Only now, at 87 years, is he beginning to open up about what he experienced, participated in, and knows. Men like my father and myself proudly served so that you could have the right to be an idiot.

You're welcome.

1/27/2010 11:28:00 AM


Three Words: Cuban Missile Crisis

1/27/2010 12:20:12 PM


Three more words: Bay of Pigs

1/27/2010 12:29:22 PM

Two more words: Berlin Airlift.

1/27/2010 1:10:38 PM


Al those little brushfire wars in Aftrica and South/Central America that were more or less proxy wars between the superpowers -- just fiction, I guess.

Soviet pilots flying MiG-15s against the UN in the Korean War until the entry of the Chinese -- didn't happen.

Same goes for Vietnam.

NATO and the Warsaw Pact eyeing each other across the inner-German border; shadow naval fleets; submarine collisions; all just fantasy.


1/27/2010 1:44:12 PM


For example: the Vietnam War didn't really happen. It was just a nightly show on television.

Neither did the Korean War.

Just "war games" between friends.

1/27/2010 3:55:12 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr


Pretend nuke going off.

Those guys were just kidding around, right?

1/27/2010 4:35:59 PM


Try telling that to Stanislav Petrov.

1/27/2010 5:04:11 PM


So the Cuba crisis was just a hoax?

1/27/2010 5:29:23 PM



1/27/2010 9:41:15 PM


Tell that to Ho Chi Minh who we attacked for being a Communist, while we sided with the oppressive and downright evil government of South Vietnam because they were 'Capitalist'.

1/27/2010 10:16:10 PM

If the people living during the missile crisis in 1962(long after Stalin died)had known.........

1/28/2010 4:11:14 AM

You probably weren't alive then. I wasn't.

1/28/2010 8:52:44 AM


"It was a conspiracy between the American leaders and Stalin... "

You do know that Stalin was dead during most of the cold war, don't you?

Of course you don't.

1/28/2010 1:11:31 PM

To say it was mostly a propaganda war is pretty accurate, but to say that there was no chance of it becoming a real war is to ignore history completely and to say that our leaders and their leaders could have been cooperating is just silly.

1/29/2010 8:58:55 AM


The "real" war didn't happen because everyone could agree that we really really didn't want it to... well except a few marginal kooks.

Also, respect is in order for the diplomats and military who did their jobs by keeping the cold war from turning into doomsday.

1/29/2010 2:02:29 PM

So when Nikita Kruschev said "We will bury you", he was talking about playing in the sand?

The Cold War raged AFTER Stalin died, and never became an actual war because of a little thing we refer to as MAD--"mutually assured destruction", which both sides knew was inevitable if either fired the first shot.

1/29/2010 3:59:15 PM

Agnostic Jew

My father, a Vietnam vet, would like to have a word with you...

1/29/2010 6:35:40 PM


Wait, I thought Stalin was one the the worstest (EVAR!) dictators. He had to pretend to go to war to keep taxes up?

1/30/2010 4:30:11 PM


> So when Nikita Kruschev said "We will bury you", he was talking about playing in the sand?

Actually he was talking about Communist ideology outliving any of the currently extant governments. While it gets a lot of play from the McCarthy types, it really wasn't that inflammatory of a speech. The out of context quote gets used for hate mongering a lot. His own explanation of it was this:

"I once said, 'We will bury you,' and I got into trouble with it. Of course we will not bury you with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you,"

As for the original quote, it's basically true. The Cold War was a genuine competition, but part of the "rules" were that the home countries of the Soviet Union and the United States would not be invaded by either side. And both sides kept to those rules all the way through. Even the Cuban Missile Crisis was simply a posturing disagreement about whether the US missiles in Turkey and the Soviet missiles in Cuba constituted breaking those rules.

And I remind you: for all the tough talk, the resolution of the situation was that both sides took the offending missiles down and claimed victory at home. Then they made agreements about where they could stash missiles and kept to them until many years after the Soviet Union stopped existing.

Pepsi barons shoot Coke distributors in Columbia, but the head offices of Pepsico are in no danger of being attacked by Coca Cola Minute Men. This is the modern world, and major powers are civilized enough to have wars by rules.

1/31/2010 5:52:24 AM


I'm sure the Cuba missile crisis was a "mental war"

2/2/2010 12:55:33 AM

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