This is how they intend to make gay marriage legal in all 50 states by judicial fiat, just as they did with abortion on demand.
Another reason why seceding is not a bad option.
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Abortion is legal in every state upon request, although thanks to the above idiots its a rather long and tedious process in some of the 'less developed' parts of the US. And on that note if people don't start speaking out and standing up for women's rights it won't be much longer before these wacko's get their way and outlaw it altogether.
If you want to leave, get your stuff together, get a foreign passport, and get the fuck out. You don't get to take any part of this country with you, k?
Okay, you guys have fun with that. Good luck setting up a functional government and treasury system. It's also probably a good idea to stock up on guns for when the US sends in the army, navy, and air force. And don't forget to set up power companies, water companies, sewage, waste management, and ISPs. It's a lot of work running a country.
No, Sparky, it will become legal, just like interracial marriage and abortion, because prohibiting it is unconstitutional.
If you want to see "judicial fiat", or "activist judges" as you wingnuts like to call them, take a look at what your right-wing buddies on the Supreme Court just did to our election process. You just lost your democracy to the corporations at the hands of your own heroes, and you're so stupid you're still ranting about other people's marriages, which will have no effect on your life whatsoever.
Why don't we let the idiots secede? Honestly, what would we lose?
Well, anything that is worth losing, that is.
You want to secede, go right ahead. I for one would love to see a Christian theocracy established somewhere and watch how badly it would fail after a few years. Guess what? Your women will be coming over the border in droves to get abortions and to live somewhere where they're not 2nd class citizens.
I'd vote for us to give you people Texas, so we'd never have to listen to you (or FOX News) again, but it's possible that some of your kids might resist your brainwashing, and it would be too cruel to trap them in there with you.
@Paler_Face
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You'd rather leave the United States than allow gays to get married? I thought you guys were the hyper-patriotic "America First" crowd. You sound more like fair-weather Americans to me. I don't threaten to secede every time Scalia acts like a douchebag (although, admittedly, if I did, I'd be threatening secession so often they'd kick me out just so they wouldn't have to put up with my whining).
And Jesus Klingon beats both of ya's, right from the 2nd reply!
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@#1108085: Don't forget the border wall that they'll have to erect just to prevent their citizens from escaping to the U.S. like the dirty illegal immmigrants they are. (And of course, the irony will be lost on Sparky1776, who probably supports building a border wall along the U.S.-Mexican border).
@ Doubting Thomas
"You want to secede, go right ahead. I for one would love to see a Christian theocracy established somewhere and watch how badly it would fail after a few years."
Thing is, they would probably start sending suicide bombers into the sane country they seceded from.
Unless ...
Hey! I just had an awesome idea. We can let fundies establish their theocracy in Tuvalu and move the natives here. Since the fundie christianists don't believe in global climate change they can put their faith to the test by moving to low-lying islands in the Pacific.
Worst-case scenario? Climate change drowns them.
Best case? The U.S. is at least emptied of fundietards.
Either way they're out of the U.S.. I absolutely don't see a down side.
Why do Americans have such a strange attitude to secession? Is the US a prison? Why shouldn't free states have referenda to leave the US? Sounds kind of oppressive, doesn't it?
Anyway... I would love to see the result of a theocratic project in some newly founded independent country, formerly a US state.
I'm all for it. You people can have Alabamastan. Just don't come whining to us when they outlaw porn (but the corrupt elected officials will still be looking at it), alcohol, and banning all "offensive" foreign non-Christian websites from whatever's left of your internet. Why don't you have a few book burnings and witch hunts? Good luck with that.
@campbunny
I don't think too many of us here would shed a tear if all the fundies left & started their own country. Looks like the comments are in favor of it, except the ones pointing out that it's the right-wing "America first" crowd who are suggesting seceding.
You know, secession is not an easy process. You'd have to deal with the whole "making a constitution and pleasing the masses so you don't have civil war" thing all over again. There's also the major issue of infrastructure and setting up a working economy. Since you guys aren't big on paying taxes, good luck finding the funds for all that.
And...*ahem* where do you propose getting an economy for this new country you wish to form? Because you better believe that the U.S.A. that you just told to fuck off will not be inclined to give you a fucking dime.
Enjoy third world status.
@ GigaGuess
They definitely would have to relinquish all U.S. property, and ESPECIALLY all military hardware so no planes, tanks or nukes for the United States of Jaysus to play around with/threaten neighbors with. That alone would prevent them from seceding, because the U.S. military and its ability to kill brown people seems to be have a Viagra-like effect on the good fundie christianists.
I win all around. I get Canadian health care. My best friend, now living in Florida, says, "Screw this shit." and moves back to Massachusetts. Boston's sidewalk preachers head south and claim refugee status in Jesusland, as they were persecuted when clerks in Downtown Crossing said, "Happy Holidays," proving this sick society has declared war on Christmas and Christians. Vacant churches will be turned into housing, industry, and other revenue-generating properties, instead of leeching off of the cities they're in. Everyone wins!
Yep!
Suck on it Sparky.
Meh, I've always figured we should give them Florida. Mostly because I have friends in Texas and they do have oil. Also if we give them Texas, does that mean they automatically inherit Alberta and BC? They own all the oil drilling here.
Or Kansas, easy to build a wall around a square.
However, poverty, loss of rights and many other inconveniences such as starting again is not, it seems to me.
You couldn't ever really secede, it's all a stupid bluff, equalivant to stomping your feet and holding your breath.
These threats are attention seekers "ohh we're so mad at America, they should be more like loud mouthed Texans, with our low education and tolerance levels" The Holier than though shit doesn't fly either, Texas is a cesspool of deviant behavior
Houston's got Liberals? Why would that be? Aren't all Texans Malboro Men and Annie Oakelys? You've shook my image of the wild wild west Gigaguess.
Next you'll tell me they've got scientists and sensable statesmen.
How ironic that these are the people who scream "love it or leave it!" when we criticize the GOP yet if something happens that liberals are in favor of (same sex marriage, public option, etc.) they start screaming that they are going to secede.
I just wish they would secede.
By doing so, the southern states would automatically:
- Become a third world country
- Become a theocracy
- Enact huge tax increases to finance their military, border control, police, fire, rescue etc.
- Create a whole new set of laws, create a new judicial system along with courts etc.
I would give such a concoction 5-10 years before they implode. Besides, such a country would be filled to the brim of idiots, not exactly something to build a foundation upon!
@campbunny: Last time a bunch of American states seceded, they were bombing Union territory within six months. 600,000 people died, so Americans are wary of repeating the conflict with modern weapons.
Also, here's the requested "United States of Canada" and "JesusLand"
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As a native Texan I can say that Houston does indeed have a strong, vibrant gay community, and the Austin/Central TX area is fairly liberal. Everywhere else is pretty much a bunch of redneck, christofascist suckholes, cowboy wannabes, and pseudo-libertarians that dont want to pull their own weight tax-wise.
As for TX secession, anyone know a good realtor in St Croix?
PLEASE make Jesusland, I beg of you. I will seriously enjoy your economy crumble since you will not have any major cornerstone in your economy. The heathen liberal nation will have California (7th largest world economy), New York, Chicago, and 2 of the top 5 heaviest traveled ports. You would have bibles and guns.
PLEASE make Jesusland, I beg of you. I will seriously enjoy your economy crumble since you will only have one state that is able to import/export. I'm not even going to touch the issue of your government structure, I think the economy alone will be fun to watch.
Go right ahead and try to secede, Johhny Reb. We'll bring the war you're planning to start all the way back to your doorstep.
For your sake, hope that the feds get to you in your home in Northwood, Massachusetts, first. At least they'll show restraint.
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