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Pinochet not only voluntarily surrendered power after he defeated the Marxist terrorists in Chile, he was elected to the Chilean Senate-twice.
Some blood thirsty brute, huh? He wasn't the monster the lefty scum has convinced everyone he was. He should be applauded for literally putting everything on the line to fight tyranny.

single stack, Moonbattery 29 Comments [2/8/2010 12:49:21 PM]
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Crocz

Ah, whitewashing american cohorts south of the border, I see...

2/8/2010 12:53:34 PM

toothache

And the part when he used the Estadio National as a concentration camp passed you by, right?

2/8/2010 12:57:34 PM

JVild

Pinochet was never elected to any office. The obscenely anti-democratic constitution he came up with in 1980 created designated and lifetime senators. Pretty much all of those seats were filled by people close to him (generals and the head of the supreme court, for example. All men designated unilaterally by Pinochet). Former presidents had a guaranteed lifetime seat.

Funny thing, he was described as "an energetic, sound, rational senator" in the mid 90's. The moment that he was detained in London, he came up with dementia.

2/8/2010 1:06:13 PM

Comhradh

Victor Jara begs to differ. Or he would, if he hadn't been tortured and machine-gunned.

2/8/2010 1:07:04 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Lie much?

2/8/2010 1:10:41 PM

DevilsChaplain

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2/8/2010 1:18:34 PM

aaa

Oh look, death squad whitewashing service has arrived. Moonbattery also thinks that democratically elected governments are tyranny and military dictatorships with "fair" elections are liberty. On behalf of Chile, fuck you with an AK.

2/8/2010 1:22:05 PM

Leander

Well, me thinks single stack is another one of those homeskooled american fundies who can not even find europe on a map...

2/8/2010 1:23:32 PM

Berny

Single Stack has a very unique view of history. Completely wrong but unique. Assholes like him have to demonize anything remotely left of their ultra right wing position to the degree they're willing to whitewash atrocities to do it.

2/8/2010 1:49:05 PM



Hitler wasn't the monster the lefty scum has convinced everyone he was. He should be applauded for literally putting everything on the line to fight tyranny.

2/8/2010 1:53:16 PM

Papabear

All sorts of vicious tyrants were initially elected by the people. At the risk of a Godwin, Hitler comes to mind.

2/8/2010 1:56:44 PM

Murdin

Die in a fire. And while I tend to overuse this expression, I've rarely been as sincere as this time. You're only one step below Holocaust revisionist, and two steps below Stalin apologists.

2/8/2010 2:51:58 PM

Masker

While not defending the OP opinion, Pinochet's regime is not the dystopian nightmare it is usually shown. I don't deny that many human rights violations were commited, and many acts from there still plague chilean society

And, he is certainly no saint. But again, neither was Salvador Allende. Pinochet's coup, while it was a terrible thing, it was the only realistic alternative to a civil war.

I don't like to talk about propaganda, but the main view of Pinochet outside Chile comes from his opositors, sometimes greatly distorting the facts. In Chile, the matter is being fully investigated, is far from being closed and it shouldn't be reduced to a simple "good vs. bad" showdown.

2/8/2010 3:16:26 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Here are some "lefty scum" who might beg to differ!



Funeral urns of political activists executed by the Chilean military dictatorship (1973-1990), in the cemetery of Santiago.

2/8/2010 3:24:42 PM

Headache

... and Hitler was a German Florence Nightingale!

2/8/2010 3:40:55 PM

Jewsus

The families of all those people who dissapeared under his regime would like a word with you.

Hell, even if you set aside all the people who "vanished" the fact he overthrew a democratically elected government is bad enough, marxist or not.

2/8/2010 3:50:45 PM

campbunny

He literally put everything on the line? He took a piece of chalk and drew a line across Chile, then had every single fucking person, animal and object in the country uprooted or dismantled and moved to this line?

You know, Stalin kept getting re-elected by the CPSU, too. I guess he was the people's choice.

2/8/2010 4:07:31 PM

Old Viking

He was a helluva guy. Helluva guy. But it paid to stay on his good side, know what I mean?

2/8/2010 4:08:14 PM

Brenz

Yeah, fuck those poets and schoolteachers!

2/9/2010 12:16:43 AM



He surrended power after a referendum showed that Chilenians wanted him OUT. And he was elected senator BY THE PARLIMENT,not by the people. Learn Spanish for a change.

2/9/2010 3:33:59 AM



It's truly frightening to think that this is the America some people want.

2/9/2010 5:42:50 AM

I read about the afterlife

Someone should inform Moonbattery that fascism=!democracy...

...Or you know maybe just explain what fascism is...

2/9/2010 8:57:46 AM

Morrigan

Saddly, many people in chile would like to rewrite history in the same way.

Assholes like this one are far too common if you ask me.

2/9/2010 9:19:47 AM

Mister Spak

http://www.lewrockwell.com/hornberger/hornberger119.html

After all, would conservatives also say that, despite having killed six million Jews and having started World War II, which killed hundreds of millions more, Hitler also had his pluses, given his commitment to Social Security, national health care, public (i.e., government) schooling, a military-industrial complex, government-business partnerships, an interstate highway system, and other government programs that conservatives revere? No, Hitler’s murderous crimes render his other ”achievements” meaningless. (Mister Spaks edit: Hitler also hated communism)

What was a Chilean woman lying on a rape table supposed to think – “At least we now have sound money in Chile”? What was a man whose fingernails were being removed supposed to scream – “Viva Milton Friedman!”? What was a person being dropped into the ocean from an airplane supposed to think on his way down – “At least my wife and children will have to pay less taxes”?

Would the CIA and the U.S. military ever subject American citizens to what the police and the military subjected Chilean citizens? Why wouldn’t they, especially in the midst of a major “crisis” or “emergency” in which “national security” was threatened by economic and financial chaos and by illegal “enemy combatants” who were threatening the security of the nation with terrorism? Isn’t that why they supported – and continue to support – what Pinochet and his henchmen did in Chile?


2/9/2010 9:34:48 AM

louislois

I fucking dare you to go down to Santiago and say that.

I fucking dare you.

2/9/2010 9:37:30 AM
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