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[The result of ending "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"?]

A list should be made, I’ll start with a few:

1. More AIDS blood (etc) bleeding onto people who don’t have it yet.

2. More homosexual rape (and moves on) of other homosexuals and normal men (and women).

3. After #2, violence against homosexuals.

4. Loss of morale - big time - due to the above reasons, plus the favoritism homosexuals will show each other.

5. Mass exodus from the military of normal men (and women), leaving a weakened and pathetic military with a huge number of homosexuals.

It will ruin the military as we know it. And if anyone says “Well, Britain etc has homosexuals in the military and they’re fine” - my answer is:

They are “Fine”? Ask them. Plus no military compares with the US military. You want our military as “great” as what the British is now? Or as great as the Netherland’s military?

little jeremiah, Free Republic 60 Comments [1/30/2010 9:57:31 AM]
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Anon

Considering that the British military has been dealing with Helmand Province in Afghanistan sine the war started I think you can fuck off.
For those who don't know, Helmand is the most dangerous region in the country by a long way, and up until very recently the US military has been doing pretty much fuck all there because it was too dangerous, so we've been doing it along with the Dutch, so both of the countries you've mentioned have been doing work that the US was scared to do.
The only thing the US military has is massive numbers and an almost unlimited budget, compared to the armies of any other western nation the US military is inefficient and inept, how many British troops have they killed through friendly fire? How many Americans have the British killed through friendly fire? Fucking loads, and almost none, respectively, so shut your gaping hole, you cunt.

1/30/2010 12:25:02 PM

Anon

Considering that the British military has been dealing with Helmand Province in Afghanistan sine the war started I think you can fuck off.
For those who don't know, Helmand is the most dangerous region in the country by a long way, and up until very recently the US military has been doing pretty much fuck all there because it was too dangerous, so we've been doing it along with the Dutch, so both of the countries you've mentioned have been doing work that the US was scared to do.
The only thing the US military has is massive numbers and an almost unlimited budget, compared to the armies of any other western nation the US military is inefficient and inept, how many British troops have they killed through friendly fire? How many Americans have the British killed through friendly fire? Fucking loads, and almost none, respectively, so shut your gaping hole, you cunt.

1/30/2010 12:26:34 PM

Xotan

"They are fine?" is not an answer. It is a question. Idiot!

Here's another question: what was the last war the US won? Answer; WWII. The Korean war was lost to the communists who are still holding the north of the country.

The Vietnam war was a disgraceful engagement that was also lost with the helicopters taking fleeing Americans and locals from the rooftops.

Gulf War I was effectively abandoned.

The Mission Accomplished War (Gulf War II) is still being fought. This was the war with not plan for after the victory, which handed a country over to terrorism and chaos.

What an inspiring military history! And it was not the soldiers' fault. Look much higher in than the ranks. Look to the top.

If you took the time to come out of your closet, Jeremiah, you would meet gays who live productive and worthwhile lives. We are not fixated around raping other men, as you so baldly state. Nor is the incidence of AIDS any greater than among heterosexuals.

And as regards Europe, we look on the like of you as a pustule on the anus of the US. It matters not a toss to us what your opinion of the Dutch or British, or any other European armed forces may be. Just go get yourself lanced by a scalpel, and then killed by a strong antibio, you sore on the American arse. That would really be doing a service for your country, which deserves far better than you and your ilk.

1/30/2010 12:59:00 PM

Canadia

1. You do realize closet homosexuals can still bleed, right? not to mention the fact homosexuals are no more at risk to getting AIDS than straight people.

2. Homosexuals ARE normal men and women, you insufferable bile-spewing bigot.

3. You aren't trying to protect anyone, stop pretending you are as a cover for your obvious bigotry.

4. The above things won't happen, not a concern.

5. Nowhere near enough scum like you in the military to make that a reality, further, it's sickening you reduce the military to stupid bigots who would do that.

1/30/2010 1:07:59 PM

Berny

I'd be willing to bet my paycheck this 'tard has never been anywhere near a military uniform, never mind worn one on duty.

1/30/2010 1:11:56 PM

Doctor Whom

1. More AIDS blood (etc) bleeding onto people who don’t have it yet.

Even if that were true, wouldn't that be an argument for, rather than against, lesbians in the military?

1/30/2010 1:35:33 PM

Vince

After the WW2 the US military began a downward spiral into absolute shit. the only thing they have going for them is an unnecessary excess of fancy toys.

their biggest problem is the administration you refuse to change. because the would let MacArthur do his job the Korean war ended in stalemate. the Vietnam war was run like shit and ended with a bunch of half starved farmers with third hand Russian guns running them out of the country. every military success since has been against some of the worst armed and worst trained wrecks of countries on earth. and even then only about half of them could be called "successes".

no offense the the soldiers, many of whom rock, but the "greatest military force in the history of man" is just a bunch of idiots in suits sitting around on more teck toys and man power then they know what to do with.

edit: hey, remember that time back in 1812. when a few hundred natives and some British colonists manged to hold off the whole US war effort and then counter invade and BURN DOWN YOUR CAPITAL.

the white house. called that in the first place because Canada set it on fire.

1/30/2010 1:51:42 PM

Rallymodeller

1. Canada allows openly gay soldiers. Right now, in Afghanistan, there are several battalions of American soldiers under the command of the Canadian army.

2. The Canadian "JTF2" special-operations unit received the Silver Star from President Bush for doing things in the Middle East that the US Spec Forces were not able to do.

3. The current Commander of Canadian Forces, General Walter Natynczyk, was not only second-in-command of the US Army III Corps during the Iraq invasion (as an exchange officer), but was awarded the Meritorious Service Cross for his actions from 2004 to 2005. In other words, for a little over a year of your little occupation, 10 brigades (35K troops) were under the direct command of a Canadian Lieutenant-General.

Howzabout them apples?

1/30/2010 2:06:26 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

"More AIDS blood (etc) bleeding onto people who don’t have it yet."

What, like this?



You fundies sexual fantasies just get weirder every day!

1/30/2010 2:17:32 PM



They're acting like their aren't gays in the military already.

1/30/2010 3:09:08 PM

Ozzie

-I'm no military expert. I'm American and support our troops, although not the war necessarily. I feel they have been sent over to Iran and Afghanistan for 3 and 4 tours with not must rest in between are probably exhausted, which is when accidents happen and morale goes down.

-From what I understand, I think Israel has one of the strongest Armies in the world. Guess what? They allow openly gay and lesbians to serve, no problem.

-Do you honestly think there are no gays in the US military?

-Homosexual does NOT equal rapist. Grow up "little" Jeremiah.

1/30/2010 3:28:51 PM



Fearmongering. I'm so sick of it.

1/30/2010 3:31:18 PM

Burning Stake

I think anonymous was talking about the fact that at least of the quotes here, "USA is the best ever" is the mindset-remember, most people in the US have never traveled outside it. First of all, it's really damn big. And second, why would we want to-to see those socialist fag countries? (Not my opinion, but the probable opinion of most people on RR, etc.)

1/30/2010 3:43:35 PM

I read about the afterlife

First of all, lesbians are at the lowest risk of contracting HIV.

Second of all, I highly doubt that considering rape is never about sex -- it's about dominance.

Thirdly, that is false if the second premise is false. And as if you care about the violence toward homosexuals anyway.

Fourthly, homosexuals do not favorite each other.

Fifthly, that won't happen because none of the above premises will happen.

1/30/2010 3:47:59 PM



@ 1106814

Fuck your ignorant, broad-brush characterization of the "feeble American Mind". While there are some Americans who think that way, they're in the minority, just like fundies are. In fact, they're usually one in the same (which, if you were as smart as you think you are, you ought to have been able to figure out by reading the comments of the many well-educated, broad-minded Americans on this site alone). Do some traveling so you'll know what the fuck you're talking about instead of showing your own vast ignorance by maligning 350 million people with one idiotic swipe.

1/30/2010 4:21:50 PM

Zeus Almighty

"3. After #2, violence against homosexuals."

Oh noes! We wouldn't want that. After all there's never been violence against homosexuals. (sarcasm)
*couch* pink triangles *cough*

Also this ...
"The most recent large-scale survey of active-duty military populations, conducted in 1995 by the Department of Defense, found that 78 percent of women and 38 percent of men in the armed services reported incidents of unwanted sexual attention. Those numbers are higher than in the military reserves, according to a congressional report released last September. It found that 60 percent of women and 27 percent of men in the military reserves and National Guard experience some form of sexual assault or harassment during their service."

http://www.womensenews.org/story/military/060411/karpinski-raises-doubts-about-military-sex-assault


1/30/2010 4:29:50 PM

WMDKitty

1: No, people with blood-borne diseases are usually pretty damn conscientious about NOT BLEEDING ON OTHERS. And doctors wear those latex gloves for a reason.

2: Interesting fantasy you have, there.

3: Already happens.

4: Oh, please. Most people don't care one way or the other as long as their fellow soldiers are doing their damn jobs.

5: That's the best you can come up with?

And no, they really ARE doing just fine. Hell, they're doing better than we are, because they're not stuck in the 50's.

1/30/2010 5:58:25 PM



You know the amazing thing. We already have gays in the military and it seems to be doing fine.

1/30/2010 7:54:25 PM

Sasha

Considering how many militaries around the world already allow homosexuals into their ranks and appear to do just fine, I think you are, as usual for Free Republic, completely full of shit.

1/30/2010 9:16:54 PM

ArcWolf

As a member of the USAF, I'd like to take a moment to address some of these concerns.

1. All military personnel have mandatory medical screening for many blood-borne infections every year. Individuals infected with HIV are on a strict drug regiment. Like persons with diabeties, they are rarely removed from duty (read: kicked out) but are instead placed on restricted service. They aren't allowed to deploy down range because they could (a)become wounded and possibly infect others and (b)run the risk of capture and running out of much needed medication which risks complications.

2. It's very sad that rape is an actual problem in our military and that it goes very under reported. That said, there is no reason to believe male-on-male rape would increase. Implying guys getting hit on by other guys is even remotely like rape shows vast ignorance or willful hate on your part. "No," will be sufficent to get a guy to stop hitting on you.

3. There is, unfortunately, the increased risk of violence against homosexuals once they start coming out of the closet. I work with several self-described "good-ole boys" raised in the midwest that openly claim "them gays ain't going to come out 'round me or I'll beat 'em." *Actual quote* But like sexual assalt, racial discrimination, religious preaching, drinking and driving, and a plethora of other issues, we will get to sit through a very long and boring powerpoint presentation telling us what not to do, what to do if we see something wrong, and how to report it.

4. Favortism? Really? The evaluation system utilized by the Air Force (I can't comment on the other services because I have no experience with them) is top heavy as is. There is no illusion in the ranks that the system isn't broken; we just make due with what we have until we get around to trying to fix it again. It is so much harder to write a bad report that most NCO's just inflate bad troops to make them look good and have an easier eval to write. Take all this into acount and favortism for or against homosexuals won't play much into it. If anything, gays won't get their desired assignments or cool overseas jobs (Japan, Germany, etc.) as such positions will go to good, straight people.

5. I hear this all the time. Those that leave either are planning to get out anyway or are increadibly short minded. Most of the old corp still around that say this won't leave because they haven't reached 20 years of service to retire. They want their benefits so they'll suck it up. They'll then either realized how stupid their position was and keep serving or get out (after retirement benefits activate) claiming "the gays ruined the military." The few similar minded in the younger generation that haven't commited more than 6-8 years already will get out and move on to other jobs. Other than their fantasy football league, few will likely miss them. As too the weakened state of the military: I'm fortunate enough to be a close friend of a serving homosexual. We've spared many times in unarmed combat training and he kicks my ass every time.

I served 2 years in England. The base's Marine detachment was taking being trained by a retired SAS officer.

To the posters on FSTDT, thanks for your support of the troops. I know we all appreciate it.


1/30/2010 9:34:28 PM

Kitty

I don't believe they even allow straight guys into the military with AIDS(if they do, I'm personally shocked since the military stops you from serving with lesser issues than that), so how does the whole allowing homosexuals into the military idea change that?

Edit: Seems ArcWolf basically confirmed what I was saying with the whole limitations on being in the military. Good thing, I was about to check on it to be sure.

1/30/2010 9:36:53 PM

Philbert McAdamia

I haven't been associated with every military force in the world, but I was in the U.S. one. Let me tell you, it ain't so great. It's the bastion of unbelievable obsolescence and stupidity beyond imagination. It's no wonder they bomb themselves and shoot each other. And now it's even infested with christian fundies.

1/30/2010 9:50:03 PM



If the British army has problems they are to do with its equipment. Its soldiers are very, very highly trained with the emphasis on being a small, elite force. They are very good at what they do, and you are just an idiot.

1/30/2010 11:44:21 PM

Orion

"Plus no military compares with the US military"

In lavish expenditure or how they appear in movies.

1/31/2010 12:29:35 AM

John_in_Oz

As great as the British? Hell, I'd be satisfied if you merely halved your rate of friendly fire.

1/31/2010 1:04:48 AM
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