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Here are two official slogans or mottos. As I rehearse them for you, ask yourself where these originated.

* “Politics do not belong in the church.”

* “The church must be separate from the state.”

These mottos did not come from the ACLU, nor from Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, nor from the Freedom from Religion Foundation. No, these slogans, word for word, came directly from the mind of Adolph Hitler. These were official slogans of the Nazi Party, adopted in the mid-1930s and relentlessly hammered into the minds of the compliant German population by the Nazi propaganda machine. In essence, what Hitler said to German pastors was this: “I don’t care what you teach your congregations, as long as you don’t talk about politics, and as long as you keep your voice inside the four walls of your churches.”

Why did Hitler do this? For one simple reason. He knew that the only force in Germany which could keep him from fulfilling his totalitarian ambitions was the church of Jesus Christ. He knew that if could not silence the voice of the church, he could not exercise total domination over the German people. He also knew that if he could silence the voice of the church, nothing could stand in his way. The church and its leaders meekly capitulated to this form of tyranny, and 25 million people died as a result, six million of them Jews. Secular fundamentalists in the United States know the same thing that Hitler knew. The only thing that stands in their way of the total takeover of our culture, the final removal of any mention of God from the public arena, and the shredding of the last remains of our Judeo-Christian value system, is the church of Jesus Christ.

Bryan Fischer, American Family Association 88 Comments [1/30/2010 4:01:03 PM]
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Archaeopteryx

Hitler, as well as all known terrorists drink water. A.F.A. members also drink water, coincidence?

1/30/2010 4:08:41 PM

MisterNnamdi

Godwin how we missed you.

Also, didn't you have to be Christian to join the SS, and that Hitler thought he was on a mission from god? (People below me are going to add more)

1/30/2010 4:09:00 PM

Jesus Klingon

You know who else thought smoking was bad for you? Hitler did!

1/30/2010 4:12:36 PM

SpacemanSpiff

Ah, reductio ad hitlerum, good thing we've never seen this before.

1/30/2010 4:13:37 PM

BLAKE THE EUROPEAN!

Did you know Hitler liked to paint?

PAINT!? It's sickening. Ban this sick filth right now!

1/30/2010 4:16:18 PM

nerrr

I'm sorry sir but your rant was so stupid that it destroyed the stupid meter

1/30/2010 4:16:42 PM

nerrr

double post... damn

1/30/2010 4:16:49 PM

David B.

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their "legislature" should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and State." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1802.

"In my view church and state should be separate, not only in form, but fact. Religion and politics should not be mingled." -- Millard Fillmore (1809-1865)

Adolf Hitler, born 1889, died 1945.

Both phrases broadly used, by American Presidents no less, before Adolf Hitler was even born. But will that little fact stop you telling the same lie in future? Of course not.

1/30/2010 4:17:27 PM

Siberia

Hitler? "Gott mit uns", Hitler? That Hitler?

1/30/2010 4:18:02 PM

the old firm

"Sigh" Here we go again:

Look up something called the "Deutsche Christen" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Christen

Oh, and take a look at the "Reichskonkordat".

Yeah, Christians of all confessions did a lot to oppose Hitler... /sarcasm

There have been organisations like the "Bekennende Kirche", which in part opposed Nazism and there were people like von Galen or Bonnhoefer, but truth to be told, the majority of german christians supported the "Führer".

1/30/2010 4:18:08 PM

aaa

The horse is dead, long live the horse.

1/30/2010 4:25:33 PM

Doctor Whom


1/30/2010 4:26:17 PM

Smilodon

[vomits] This has to be the most abhorent Godwin I've ever seen on this site.

1/30/2010 4:26:48 PM

PWEOTWEB

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

1/30/2010 4:26:55 PM

Arnold Facepalmer

WTF is a "Secular Fundamentalist"?

1/30/2010 4:46:14 PM

Darn

Go fuck yourself .... the church, whether Protestant or Roman-Catholic, in Germany wholeheartedly supported Adolf Hitler as long as they thought they could control him as a means to defeat the communists.

And for that they were more then willing to bless his guns and look away when the jews where dragged off to camps .... for 're-settlement'


1/30/2010 4:51:20 PM

MK

"He also knew that if he could silence the voice of the church, nothing could stand in his way."

Clearly he was wrong, as the United States military, under the leadership of two Democrat presidents, not only stood in his way, they totally kicked his ass.

"The church and its leaders meekly capitulated to this form of tyranny"

You mean the Catholic church. The same church that's full of people who aren't Christians. Right?

I'm curious how, exactly, the "voice of the church" was going to stop Hitler. How was protesting against Hitler going to stop armed SS troops? I mean, the Jews protested too and it didn't help them.



1/30/2010 4:59:18 PM

Mike Sihl

Really?

"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith. . . we need believing people."

— Hitler, April 26, 1933, during negotiations which led to the Nazi-Vatican Concordat of 1933.

"Embued with the desire to secure for the German people the great religious, moral, and cultural values rooted in the two Christian Confessions, we have abolished the political organizations but strengthened the religious institutions."

— Adolf Hitler, speaking in the Reichstag on Jan. 30, 1934

Once again, history disagrees with you fundies

1/30/2010 5:00:13 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Lie much?

Gott Mit Uns, shit-for-brains.


1/30/2010 5:02:52 PM

atrasicarius

[citation needed]

1/30/2010 5:06:12 PM



Godwin. Also, Hitler liked dogs. Does that make the American Kennel Club Nazis? No.

1/30/2010 5:11:20 PM

Zeus Almighty

Hey Bryan, go read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" and then we'll talk.
Oh, wait. What am I thinking? That book has 1,200 pages and no photos or drawings in it. Fundies don't even bother to read their damn Wholly Babble.

1/30/2010 5:19:06 PM

WMDKitty

LIAR.

1/30/2010 5:31:49 PM

Murdin

Christianity : rewriting history for fun and profit since 312.

1/30/2010 5:33:46 PM

Frank

History fail!

1/30/2010 5:38:51 PM
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