Quote# 70038

As already noted, they steal our sovereignty by tricking us into contracts. Even though the UCC itself instantly voids any contract that isn't blessing all parties involved with "full disclosure of all terms & conditions." Ah, but if you know that you weren't fully assessed of the terms & conditions, the court will void that contract!

For example, your Birth Certificate; Did anyone tell your parents that the registration process for that Birth Certificate contracts their newborn child as chattel property to the state? No, most likely, someone on the hospital staff (not a legal representative, no less, so the contract is grossly misrepresented) shoved a bunch of paperwork into their faces & said, "you gotta fill these out." So, if you were to file & record (legal affidavit will suffice) the same birth-info into county (where you were born) Hall of Records, you could have your Birth-Registration nulled as if it were never valid in the first place...Which is what the UCC upholds. But, with a Record of Live Birth filed, you still retain all of the Rights Under Law that you were born with!

For another example, in America, no zip code is required on an envelope for the Post Office to deliver the mail...It's strictly voluntary! What that zip code really does is puts your home into Federal Jurisdiction...Fed Agencies, such as the IRS use those codes, but not to deliver mail! So, if you get any mail from a federal agency & it has the zip code on it, don't open it. Just send it back with the phrase "Address not in federal jurisdiction. No Zip Code is required. See Domestic Mail Services Regulations, Section 122.32." Accepting that mail & opening it constitutes entering into contract with the office/agency that sent it & establishes you as a 14th Amendment Citizen of the District of Colombia. Boy, just to cover your own butt, you gotta use a bullet-proof force field!

MidnightDStroyer, Above Top Secret 26 Comments [2/18/2010 10:43:56 PM]
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Sandwich Board

"What that zip code really does is puts your home into Federal Jurisdiction..."

What that zip code really does is the same as any other postal code used in any other country in the world: speeds up sorting and avoids the ambiguity of having two places with the same name.

But I don't really need to point that out, do I?

"Boy, just to cover your own butt, you gotta use a bullet-proof force field!"
You shot me in the ass!

2/19/2010 12:08:38 AM

Tax return too difficult for you, eh?

2/19/2010 12:28:54 AM

The funny thing is that these guys who think that having any contract with the state is being treated as chattle, are the same who later complain that "we don't get the service as a hard-working person who pays his taxes". Please, make up your mind.

2/19/2010 2:54:42 AM



2/19/2010 4:37:12 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

Don't forget to wear your tin-foil helmet when you fly you plane by(to) the IRS office.

2/19/2010 5:01:05 AM

ATS is a joke website isn't it? Its a college prank, right???

2/19/2010 7:14:40 AM

Huckster Sam

Interestingly enough, I can only find information regarding a Domestic Services Regulations, Section 122.32 on conspiracy theorist sites. Most of it is just a legal document about a petition being filed, nothing more than that.

2/19/2010 8:15:56 AM


Well technically no, you don't need a birth certificate. I'm sure there's people born in Alaska and the Ozarks that never have a birth certificate. Of course they can never gain the benefits of being a registered US citizen either. You're choice basically.

As for the zip code, do you know what happens if you don't use one? It gets sent to a giant sorting warehouse where it is hand sorted. If you're mail gets from point A to point B within a year, I'll be shocked.

And you don't want to be a US citizen? You're free to leave any time you want. Not sure where you'd go, but I'm sure some backwater country will take you in.

2/19/2010 11:27:01 AM

Nations are sovereign, people are independent. And by the way, your country doesn't own you. It doesn't make a big fuss over you moving to another country, after all (unless you've been found guilty of an actual crime and haven't been pardoned).

2/19/2010 12:04:23 PM


The IRS must live for assholes like this.

2/19/2010 1:36:25 PM


This is hilarious. You must take this on the road, MidD.

2/19/2010 7:10:07 PM

Well if you force field isn't bullet proof...it ain't a very good force field

2/20/2010 1:34:04 AM


Actually, by definition if your home is within the territory of the United States of America it is de facto as well as de jure in a Federal Jurisdiction. Just because "a man's home is his castle" doesn't mean it's an independent nation. Example: I live in Canada, and therefore I am under Canadian Federal Jurisdiction, as well as the respective jurisdictions of my Province, County and Municipality.

Furthermore, the Fourteenth Amendment has five sections, none of which seem to have anything to do with what you are claiming.

2/20/2010 2:56:22 AM


Freemen on the Land. The movement that keeps on giving.


2/20/2010 1:06:00 PM


My home is actually the consulate of the sovereign state of Yaoidonia. Emo boys, please stand at the side of the road and look for the sedan with the little flag - I'll take you away from all this, just like Raoul bloody Wallenberg.

2/20/2010 8:40:01 PM


I know one of these clowns. He's being audited by the IRS, and insists they have no jurisdiction. His wife lost her patience, and is divorcing him over this crap, his buddies in this group are telling him to let her go, since "she doesn't get it." This anti-government group he's hooked up with has a fundie Christian tone to it, but yet, they've broken up a marriage. Nice work guys!

BTW, what's this UCC they're talking about?

2/22/2010 10:15:28 AM



Uniform Commercial Code

It is a series of laws and regulations designed to make interstate commerce more uniform. Conspiracy theorists (who have no idea how it works) think that it is the highest law of the land.

2/22/2010 8:38:00 PM

Yeah I'm sure that second bit would go over real well with the IRS and the like.

2/23/2010 4:14:57 PM

Doubting Thomas

I just love these amateur lawyers who think they can get out of paying taxes by using obscure legal codes and ideas.

Yeah, and if they serve you with papers with your name in all caps, be sure not to respond since that's not your legal name and you'll be entering a contract with the government. Besides, the courtroom probably has a flag with a gold fringe around it which means you'll be in an admirality court. Be sure you explain this to the judge in detail as he throws you in jail for contempt of court.

2/24/2010 5:26:04 PM


Besides all that nonsense, who would want a force field that wasn't bulletproof?

2/25/2010 10:45:47 AM


Eh, Whaaa.....

Good News, Everybody! The Domestic Mail Services Regulations doesn't even HAVE a Section 122...

3/4/2010 12:26:53 PM


Contract law does not work like that.

3/6/2010 8:17:07 AM


@ Doubting Thomas: "I just love these amateur lawyers who think they can get out of paying taxes by using obscure legal codes and ideas. "

It's a kind of magical thinking. They're like occult believers - using the right words and phrases will mysteriously protect you.

3/14/2010 7:55:17 AM

jabba the slut

Damn, I just mailed a bunch of stuff with my zip code on it today. WHY DIDNT ANYONE TELL ME?!?! :(

4/8/2010 1:40:28 PM

The Anonymous

That would be really cool and awesome, if it didn't have a 100% chance of failing in court. Just pay your damn taxes like every sane American!

7/18/2012 10:06:12 PM

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