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[U.S. military weapons inscribed with Bible references by manufacturers.]

The Bible references are put there intentionally. But, that’s not the point. The point is that these idiot reporters and godless libtards are freaking out over this, towing the KKK line of “separation of church and state.” (If you don’t know about the KKK’s relationship to the “separation of church and state” statement, I’ll give you a hint: The phrase is part of the swearing in ceremony for the KKK, and the Supreme Court Justice who put that phrase into the legal vernacular was a member of the KKK...)

DoctorBulldog, Free Republic 40 Comments [1/30/2010 2:39:36 PM]
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...Maybe keeping State OUT of church, but I'm fairly certain the Klan wants to make the entire world Protestant. Also, I don't think the Justice was FOR it, if they even said that. So, DocBullshit, you fail.

1/30/2010 2:43:48 PM


...Thomas Jefferson was a member of the KKK?

...Thomas Jefferson was a Supreme Court justice?

1/30/2010 2:47:28 PM


What the
Are you saying, you
Retard ? Do you
Really think your
Gibberish does make
Any sense at all ?
Really, it's just incomprehenisible
Bullshit from the first word to the
Last one.

1/30/2010 2:51:33 PM

The Watcher

A) That's not true.

B) Even if it were, how is it relevant?

1/30/2010 2:55:53 PM

Vegetable Rights Activist

Bible references on ACOG sights.

Because when I am about to shoot some dude, I want to be reminded about the teachings of Christ.

Do they want all of our soldiers to die after turning the other cheek?

And yes, I know the specific passage referenced was the "Onward Christian Soldiers" bit, but that is even worse.

It gives the rest of the world that all of our soldiers are some kind of psychopathic 'Knights Templar" kind of dude, and that does nothing to better our image abroad.

1/30/2010 2:59:09 PM


"The point is that these idiot reporters and godless libtards are freaking out over this, towing the KKK line of “separation of church and state.”"

Okay. Talk about pulling random logic out of left field.

KKK came up with "separation of church and state." Hmm. Care to explain this DoctorBullshit?

1/30/2010 3:03:17 PM

J. Random Lurker

Saw an article about this a bit ago, it involves a Michigan company putting the references on sights, which apparently they do on all the sights they sell (their civilian ones also contain these references).

That said, if such sights are made to MIL-SPEC, I doubt the MIL-SPEC allows for such references. Methinks either the military representative missed the representation and/or the spec is flawed because of the religious reference.

I don't care if they're on sights the soldiers purchase themselves and retain when they leave the service. It's their money.

Just don't put bible references on government-issued equipment, and especially equipment that's going to Iraq or Afghanistan.

1/30/2010 3:11:43 PM


How do you know what's in a swearing in ceremony for the KKK?

1/30/2010 3:13:46 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Jefferson was in the Klan? Who knew?

1/30/2010 3:17:12 PM

I've actually been to a Klan rally and they were spewing scripture, so methinks DoctorBulldog is a retard.

1/30/2010 3:29:15 PM

Rat of Steel

(Jehovah's Advocate hat on)

Actually, DoctorBulldog isn't talking about Thomas Jefferson. While Jefferson certainly was the first one to use the phrase "separation of Church and State", the OP is talking about someone else who actually used that phrase when writing a court decision, sometime in the latter half of the 20th century. I wish I could recall that judge's name, but it currently escapes me.

(Jehovah's Advocate hat off)

1/30/2010 3:34:56 PM

I read about the afterlife

The KKK are extremist protestants...I don't think they want the seperation of church and state. They're pretty fond of the verse "slaves, obey your master"

1/30/2010 3:41:37 PM

Maybe she meant Masons?

1/30/2010 3:45:48 PM

Even if it was a Supreme court justice who first used the phrase "separation of church and state", that would be a totally irrelevant point, because it doesn't mean he originated that concept or policy within our law. It originated with the founding fathers, who stated unequivocally in our Consitiution that there shall be NO establishment of a state religion.

And you're completely full of shit about the KKK, but again, even if it were true, read the Constitution.

1/30/2010 4:00:08 PM

Do you people ever think? Bible verses on weapons we take into a Muslim country only fuels their religious zealots' belief that we're enagaging in a war on their religion.

1/30/2010 4:04:14 PM


Tell me, why should i not punch you for being a massive tard?

1/30/2010 4:18:53 PM

Zeus Almighty

I did a story on hate groups a few years back, and pretty much every Klan group I researched had as a requirement the Christian faith. In fact, being non-Christian was an automatic reason for disqualification for membership.
Why do you think they burn fucking crosses, you moron?

1/30/2010 4:21:29 PM


Translation: Most people don't like the KKK. I don't like liberals. If I say liberals are the same as the KKK, other people won't like liberals.

1/30/2010 4:48:56 PM

I'm pretty the KKK were all about the unification of church and state.

1/30/2010 5:17:33 PM

How can you actually type those words?

The KKK was founded as a Christian organization, and most chapters still have a requirement of faith that one be a Christian in order to join.

1/30/2010 5:33:11 PM


Uh, no. The KKK was, and is, a Christian "organization".

1/30/2010 5:44:13 PM

Old Viking

The KKK members are idiotic, uneducated, completely biased and altogether Christian.

1/30/2010 7:10:56 PM

KKK and separation of church and state?

which KKK are you talking about?

1/30/2010 7:53:35 PM

The Bible references are put there intentionally.
So you're saying they could have found their way there accidentally?

1/30/2010 8:46:32 PM


"Supreme Court Justice who put that phrase into the legal vernacular was a member of the KKK"

Thomas Jefferson was never a member of the supreme court, and also he loved the brown sugar.

1/30/2010 9:07:51 PM

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