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Carbon 14; ha ha ha. The Carbon Dating Method is itself based on guesswork. O.K., so they test a rock and say it's 4,000 yrs old(give or take 10,000 yrs). Does anyone have any way to dispute that measurement? No, there was nobody alive 4,000 yrs ago who is still alive today. So is there any way to prove the measurement correct? No, there's no way to confirm that anything tested this way is accurate. If it's wrong, who's going to know? When you can go back in time and get proof that the rock was made 4,000 yrs. ago, then you can call it concrete evidence. Other than that 'scientists' are just iterpreting the clues as best they can(or how they want them interpreted). Fossils; remember the Great Flood? I have a theory of my own here. That much water covering the entire Earth in that short of time then receding also very quickly could do the same things to the land as glaciers moving slowly over centuries. In my opinion, no Ice Age. Also, many animals died at that time. Dinosaurs? Maybe. GOD never said that all the animals taken aboard the Ark would make it to our time. They could have gone extinct since then. Job (in the book of Job) writes about seeing something that could be interpreted like a dragon. Sulfur coming out of it's nostrils, very large. He did not say that it was a vision, so it could have been a real animal. The stories and legends have to start from somewhere.

Lord Secutor, Star Wars TCG Board 14 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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TheLee

Carbon 14 does not date rocks... it dates organic material... you know, stuff with Carbon in it. It isn't used to date anything older than ~50k years old. There are other types of radiometric dating for older stuff.

So what did the fossils have to do with the great flood? He throws that out and goes nowhere with it.

4/11/2008 10:38:37 PM

GigaGuess

No, there was nobody alive 4,000 yrs ago who is still alive today.
So...who's corroborating your account, then?

4/11/2008 10:51:03 PM

Shadoboy

Yes, there is no people alive from so many thousands of years ago. So they can't prove the global flood either.

10/2/2008 2:36:00 AM

Tired Christian

I find it sad that I know more about carbon dating that this person (a 31 yr old 'politician' according to their profile), and I haven't yet left high school.

Added bonus: Their profile has the following: "Gender Not Set"

10/2/2008 3:46:42 AM

Cthulhuigi

How is a untestable hypothesis a theory? :[

10/2/2008 3:50:23 AM

Michael

Carbon 14 dates organic materials, not rocks.
http://geology.wr.usgs.gov/parks/gtime/radiom.html
But since your scientific "abilities" do not seem more than being able to add hot water to your coffee, it is pointless arguing with you.
Your "theories" like your bible, are based on the ramblings of semi-literate goat sodomisers which was where your stories and legends originated.
My profession of approaching 57 years, is translating the texts and symbols from where your fucking bible comes from.u
Pretending to have scientific knowledge only highlights your crass stupidity.

10/2/2008 6:59:29 AM



It's not. It's based on the rate of decay of Carbon 14, something which is observable. There are plenty of other methods that can be used to verify the date given by carbon dating. Also, there's no one alive now who was alive 200 years ago, so who's to say that the world isn't actually only 200 years old? Oh, right, lots and lots of evidence.

1/12/2010 5:00:04 PM

Enigma32

Beautiful! You've successfully debunked Carbon-14 dating. Wow, you guys are, like, fuckin' geniuses and shit.

Now tell me how you debunk uranium-lead dating - the oldest, most refined, and most accurate of the dating mechanisms with a range of 1 million years ago to 4.5 billion.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

9/12/2010 8:12:03 AM

Justanotheratheist

"Remember the Great Flood?"

No.

"In my opinion, no Ice Age."

In the opinion of sane people with the evidence to back it up, no Great Flood.

As for Job seeing a dragon, he was either stoned on magic mushrooms or what he wrote has been so mangled in subsequent translations (remember, dickhead, that not one word of the Bible was written in English) that what it says now is a country mile from what he wrote.

Nor have there been dinosaurs alive within the last 4000 years, or even the last 40 million for that matter. We have the fossils, you have a shitty book.

We win.

9/12/2010 8:19:01 AM

Swede

There are trees that are several hundred years old. By following the growth rings of fossilized trees you can get up to about 12 000 years ago. By comparing carbon-dating to growth ring dating (dendrochronology) you can ascertain that your dating is fairly accurate. There are other methods as well; if they all add up, they are probably more or less correct.

Water covering land for a few month did the same as glaciers moving over land for centuries? Yeah, right! Are you aware that parts of Sweden are still rising out of the sea? The pressure during the last ice age pushed most of the land south of Stockholm below sea-level.

Stories and legends came from people wanting to overshadow each other by the campfire.

9/12/2010 8:32:41 AM

Philbert McAdamia

When you can go back in time and get proof that the rock was made 4,000 yrs. ago, then you can call it concrete evidence.

*snicker*

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@ Swede
Stories and legends came from people wanting to overshadow each other by the campfire.

Sort of like The Liars' Club, isn't it?

9/12/2010 9:24:55 AM



"The stories and legends have to start from somewhere."

Yes they did. ALL stories and legends began somewhere and most are the product of imagination


9/12/2010 9:31:53 AM

Quantum Mechanic

I didn't need to finish the first sentence to see you don't have a clue what you are babbling about.

3/13/2011 1:31:17 PM

Philbert McAdamia

@ Swede
Stories and legends came from people wanting to overshadow each other by the campfire.

OK, now I picture them telling their urban bucolic legends holding an Aladin lamp or a candle under the chin to make the spooky face (and a brush fire haha).
Abdul, face on fire: "Holy shishkebab!!!"
Other campers: "Lo, the burning bush speaketh."

3/13/2011 1:44:44 PM
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