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Dan Lietha, Answers in Genesis 74 Comments [2/9/2010 2:16:52 PM]
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Even with that bs, it is higher than Creationism. And evolution has been observed.

2/9/2010 2:19:30 PM


If i had the ability to zap the hack who made this atrocity, i would not hesitate one bit.

2/9/2010 2:21:37 PM


Answers in Genesis - Your source for absolute bullshit. :D

2/9/2010 2:22:10 PM


87.9% of all statistics are made up.

2/9/2010 2:28:03 PM


Incidentally, that very long number works out to be 10^213. That's over a googol squared.

2/9/2010 2:29:54 PM

Doubting Thomas

"According to my calculations..."

Which apparently were just pulled out of your ass, because the probability of evolution being true is more like 1 in 1. All those zeroes in your figure apparently each represent a straw man argument you conveniently come up with.

2/9/2010 2:31:55 PM

Better odds than Creationism.

2/9/2010 2:35:16 PM


Odds of evolution being true: 100 percent. It's been directly observed.
Odds of fundtards accepting this: 0 percent.

2/9/2010 2:45:55 PM

Man Called True

Wow, that's one hell of a shiny mirror.

...and what the hell is up with Jesus-Fish-Guy's face? He looks like he should doing five-to-ten for bank fraud.

2/9/2010 2:46:38 PM

David B.

Actually, that's more likely the odds of you doing your sums right.

But just for a laugh let's apply "creation math" to the problem of God's existence.

Now "creation math" doesn't allow for any gradual accumulation of traits, no-siree. It's got to be one tornado, blowing through one junkyard and building at least one 747. So let's say there is a god, how powerful will that god be? Well he could be very powerful like apollo, very-very powerful like Zeus, semi-powerful like Heracles, etc. In fact he could have any amount of power at all. But you say he happens to have infinite power. But the chances of a god having infinite power out of all the amounts of power he could have is 1/oo!

Now how much knowledge does he have? Well I suppose he could be anything from an insensible, mad, idiot god to - i don't know - omniscient? What you're god is omniscient too? Well the odds of that are 1/oo!

Finally, how nice a god is he? I mean some gods are pretty mean, some are downright evil, most are pretty capricious, but I guess a few are okay for the most part. Wait, you say your god is omnibenevolent? So he's not the god of the bible then! (Haha, just joking (not).) Wow so of all the nicenesses he could have had he chose infinity again? That's another 1/oo!

So now we are in a position to work out just how likely it is that there is a omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent god...

1/oo x 1/oo x 1/oo = ...
(Just let me double check...)

Yes! There's still no fucking chance!

Of course, having now proved this with math, you will immediately abandon all faith and join us on the dark side, right? I mean, who can argue with math?!

2/9/2010 3:04:47 PM


My evolution, this guy's the next Bill Watterson!

I often say to myself, "What could possibly make Family Circus any funnier? Oh! I know! A little blurb underneath the comic that explains the 'joke' being told."

Next stop Pulitzer!

2/9/2010 3:07:52 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Well laughing your arse off, like the dude with evo T shirt, is a perfectly normal reaction when confronted with BS statistics like that!

2/9/2010 3:16:38 PM


My evolution, this guy's the next Bill Watterson!

I often say to myself, "What could possibly make Family Circus any funnier? Oh! I know! A little blurb underneath the comic that explains the 'joke' being told."

Next stop Pulitzer!

2/9/2010 3:18:34 PM


False. Everyone knows that 97.901% of fundies can't count higher than 6000.

2/9/2010 3:22:51 PM

Abdul Alhazred


2/9/2010 3:30:25 PM


The problem with "after the fact" probability calculations: the probability of 100 specific consecutive numbers coming up at roulette is even lower. Yet 100 consecutive roulette numbers come up at casinos every night. Of course if those 100 numbers were specified in advance, that would be truly amazing.

2/9/2010 3:32:22 PM


I remember that one of thunderf00t's classic creationist-bashing videos had a long segment on the "bogus probability calculations" that creationists use.. They really do like to pull numbers like that out of their asses.

2/9/2010 3:42:48 PM

Doctor Whom

I've heard evangelicals admit that stating any nonzero probability is the same as admitting defeat. So there, Dan LIE-tha.

2/9/2010 3:47:41 PM


Ah, Dan ThaLie... er, Liartha... uh, whatever... irrelevant cartoonist that is as ignorant as the paper he draws on.

2/9/2010 3:53:06 PM


1. Abiogenesis =/= Evolution. They're related, but not the same thing.

2. Probabilities only deal with future events. Since we know Evolution happened, these bullshit probabilities do not apply.

3. Your probabilities are hugely over-inflated. You take something like the number of genes in a modern species (doesn't really matter which) and raise some other number to it. Then you say the chance is only one in this huge number.
3a. If we're dealing with the chance of any life appearing, the number on top of the fraction would be a lot larger than '1'.
3b. You're ignoring process. Only certain combinations of chemicals react, or react to form anything useful.
3c. No body said a modern species appeared out of nowhere. The first life would have been very simple. So the number on the bottom of the fraction would be a lot smaller.

So your fraction should be something like a*b/c (where c is smaller than the usual example given by creotards), greatly reducing the apparent improbability of abiogenesis. But like I said in #2, probabilities only deal with future events, not the past. This last section was just to critique your bullshit number.

2/9/2010 3:57:33 PM


I hope they use lots of lube when pulling those "calculations" out of their assess. Otherwise it's got to hurt like a bitch!

2/9/2010 4:00:37 PM


Care to show us these calculations?

2/9/2010 4:15:08 PM


Take your socks off, maybe it will help improve that there kal-ku-latin'.

2/9/2010 4:31:29 PM


Natural selection is kinda like playing with a loaded dice.

It tends to favor a certain number.

There will be occasions where the die doesn't land on the desired face, but as the number of tosses approaches infinity you will see that the dice lands alot on a certain number much more than that of a fair die.

2/9/2010 4:42:07 PM


Is it just me or is that 'jesus fish with legs' actually a cool design?

Do want a shirt like that, please.

2/9/2010 4:48:13 PM

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