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Coakley insulted people with religious values by declaring that those who oppose abortion probably shouldn't work in emergency rooms because an occasional patient might demand an immediate abortion. Feminists refuse to allow respect for a right of conscience because that might get in the way of their ideology that abortion is women's premier right.

Feminists pretend they want all laws and behavior to be gender-neutral, with identical treatment of male and female (and other genders, whatever they are). But when it comes to domestic violence and child abuse, feminist ideology decrees that men are naturally batterers and women never lie so they don't have to present evidence in order to convict a man.

Phyllis Schlafly, TownHall.com 41 Comments [2/12/2010 11:38:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar
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Night Jaguar

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

2/12/2010 11:48:33 PM

Sophie

Christian ideology decrees that homosexuals are naturally hell-bound sinners worthy of death, and Christians never lie, so they don't have to present evidence in order to convict a homosexual. Fixed.

By the way, "women" don't convict men charged with assault. A district attorney typically does that, and yes, evidence is required. Fair trials being one of those ideas our Constitution was formed around, unfortunately for those who would force Christian law on everyone.

2/13/2010 12:30:20 AM

Orion

I'm sorry have you never heard of men taking out restraining orders against their spouses? Does happen. Many women are convicted of child abuse. And any police worth their badges investigate all claims of domestic violence seriously regardless of who reports it.

2/13/2010 12:51:57 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

Oh goddammit Phyllis. Just shut up and die already.

2/13/2010 1:10:17 AM

Scooby71

What's this woman doing expressing an opinion?

What does her husband think?

2/13/2010 2:17:11 AM



Hey Andy, tell your wife to get off the internet and back in the kitchen.

2/13/2010 2:44:19 AM

aaa

"Waah! Why can't all women just enjoy being punched?! Waah!"

2/13/2010 3:14:55 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Coakley insulted people with religious values by declaring that those who oppose abortion probably shouldn't work in emergency rooms because an occasional patient might demand an immediate abortion. Feminists refuse to allow respect for a right of conscience because that might get in the way of their ideology that abortion is women's premier right.

I propose a compromise. Pro-lifers should be allowed to work in emergency rooms, but have a label embroidered on their uniforms identifying them as such, so that when they refuse to help someone who needs such a procedure they can be quickly spotted and pushed out of the way by someone else who is willing to do so. That way, everybody wins: the patient gets what she actually asks for, the pro-life employee can feel all smug and superior that he or she was in the presence of said patient and refused to comply, and the pro-choice employee can get on with his or her fucking job.

2/13/2010 3:46:56 AM

Anon

@ Brain in a jar:
I respectfully disagree, when you enter the medical profession you agree to perform medical procedures that the patient requires, if that's an abortion and you don't agree, then you shouldn't have become a medic, but when you did you agreed to leave your personal opinions at the door.

2/13/2010 4:31:01 AM

Xotan

Cripes! There's a Fill-us Assfly too!

There is a simple answer to her dilemma. Read the job description before signing the contract. Otherwise, if you breach contract you should be fired and sued.

2/13/2010 6:17:58 AM

gaijinlaw

@ #1116469

Believe it or not, Phyllis is actually Andy's mom. Crazy-ass wingnuttery is a family tradition.

2/13/2010 6:45:57 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

I agree with you, Anon. I was making an absurd, sarcastic example.

2/13/2010 8:05:30 AM

John

Feminists refuse to allow respect for a right of conscience

People have the right to refuse to do work that offends them. Employers have the right to hire someone else to do the work. Just because you don't want to do a job doesn't mean someone has to pay you for not doing it. "Reasonable accommodation" doesn't include paying someone to sit on their ass and do nothing.

2/13/2010 8:09:37 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Whaaaat? She's still alive?

Just goes to show, Billy Joel was right when he said, "Only the good die young."

2/13/2010 8:23:45 AM

Night Jaguar

"Whaaaat? She's still alive? "

Well, not necessarily.....


2/13/2010 8:53:40 AM

Blasphemina

I'm having a hard time seeing where anyone would ever go to the ER for an abortion. I mean, if someone came in with a life-threatening situation, perhaps, and everyone agreed that it was the only way to save the mother's life...oh, but I forgot. Women are only useful to pop out more cannon fodder, and once that's done we can toss them aside like a piece of used chewing gum.

2/13/2010 9:10:36 AM

Canadiest


"demand an immediate abortion"
Do you know how hospitals work? There is legal process that makes this impossible.

Men are much more violent and much more likely to abuse the children and women are much more often the victim. Real men face up to the facts, conservatives seem to make excuses and ignore the reality.


2/13/2010 9:19:02 AM

Swede

Feminists, on average, say no such things. But there are fundamentalist feminists also, and they are as closed-minded as all other fundies.

If you are against abortions, you should probably not work in an environment where you might be required to perform an abortion. That is just common sense.

Women's primary right is to be treated as a human being, with the same respect and dignity as men are

Regarding domestic violence most feminists acknowledge that both men and women are aggressors, and both men and women are victims. The same requirements to present evidence should be upheld here, as in any other court procedure.

If there is risk of a child being hurt in any way, the child should be removed from the danger first, then we can worry about evidence.
A woman (or a man) who lies in court, to the detriment of her former partner, should lose guardianship of her (his) children. Making your children hate your ex-spouse is child abuse.

2/13/2010 9:30:33 AM

Marc

@Canadiest

Men are much more violent and much more likely to abuse the children and women are much more often the victim.

While it may be true that most cases of domestic abuse are performed by men on women or children, it does not follow that:

a) All men are "much more violent."
b) Men are all likely to be child abusers.

If your comment were true, then child/spousal abuse by men would be the norm in human society, and a lack of it would be perceived as unusual.

Additionally, there has been an increase in domestic abuse reports from men against their wives, showing that women are just as likely to show violent tendencies as men. As for the children, I know from personal experience that women are just as likely as men to be abusive towards them.


2/13/2010 9:35:34 AM



No, those would be femi-nazis. Feminists are all for the equal rights of all people regardless of gender. As for behavior, it'd be nice if stereotypes suddenly vanished, but the reality is that it's going to take years, possibly generations, to slowly wear down that rock through exposure to the people being stereotyped and encouraging a little empathy for them.

2/13/2010 11:09:55 AM

GigaGuess

If your beliefs get in the way of giving proper care to a patient, you should not be in the ER. Period. You are not there to push your ideology, you're there to care for the person in the bed. Deal with it, or walk.

2/13/2010 11:30:49 AM

John_in_Oz

There's hundreds of books on feminist ideology available. Find me the one you're citing and I'll give up mocking fundies for a month!

2/13/2010 12:22:33 PM

Old Viking

It's fun just to let your mind wander.

2/13/2010 12:36:28 PM

Sceptre

Mind you, this is Phyllis Schlalfy we're talking about here. The woman Margaret Atwood modelled Serena Joy in The Handmaid's Tale on. I mean, only Ann Coulter gets close to how misogynist Phyllis gets.

2/13/2010 1:05:24 PM

Sasha

If the good die young, Phyllis may live for another century.

2/13/2010 1:08:48 PM
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