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Excuse me but I think most of you are missing the point about why the left is against abstaining from sex until after marriage, and why they push queer sex and want it taught in school.
It has to do with one of the goals of communism, which is to completely destroy the moral fabric of a society and replace it with the state.

This is apparent if you study how they have taken control of many countries(all have failed of course). They destroy the family(sound familiar) unit because this leaves fewer loyalties and breeds dependence on the state. Indiscriminate sex also destroys loyalties and discourages ties to other people.

calex59, Free Republic 48 Comments [2/12/2010 11:56:39 PM]
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Tolpuddle Martyr

Um, isn't "I'm horny" enough? Can we keep the state out of this?

2/13/2010 12:14:17 AM

PokeWithStick

Gay sex does not equal communism. A majority of my family still lives in China, and my family hasn't been torn apart by communism, or gays for that matter.

2/13/2010 12:29:01 AM

nerr

I doubt you even know what communism is you moron

2/13/2010 12:33:04 AM

Orion

"Excuse me but I think most of you are missing the point about why the left is against abstaining from sex until after marriage"

Oh oh I know! The answer is: There is absolutely no reason to arbitrarily deny natural urges that are both fun and safe to indulge in.

"and why they push queer sex and want it taught in school."

Homosexual teenagers deserve proper sex education as much as heterosexuals.

"It has to do with one of the goals of communism, which is to completely destroy the moral fabric of a society and replace it with the state."

Please to read the communist manifesto (or at least an economics textbook) then come back kthx. (protip: replace the words; "moral fabric" with "capitalist free market")

"This is apparent if you study how they have taken control of many countries(all have failed of course)."

Is that why China is failing so hard? Is that why America is failing so hard? (I mean when you lot seized control from the British you were pretty left wing) Is that why Russia had you cowering under your beds for the better part of 50 years?

"They destroy the family(sound familiar) unit because this leaves fewer loyalties and breeds dependence on the state."

No it doesn't. If the state breaks up families that breeds discontent towards the state. War tends to foster a dependence on the state, with the populace rallying behind the government against a common enemy only the state has the resources to combat.


"Indiscriminate sex also destroys loyalties and discourages ties to other people."

I disagree. I find it encourages ties, people become suddenly much nicer to you after you have great sex, with the promise of more to come...

2/13/2010 12:40:22 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

No one's encouraging indiscriminate sex. They're encouraging use of protection and contraception so that people can have sex responsibly.

2/13/2010 1:16:17 AM

Katsuro

Gay = communist plot.

Yes, of course it is <backs away slowly, making sure to not make any sudden arm movements>.

2/13/2010 2:32:20 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

That's some excellent use of weasel words there. Your post quite fails to address or even acknowledge that there's a whole window between "abstaining from sex until after marriage," your first phrase, and "indiscriminate sex," your second phrase used synonymously with the first: that of discriminate sex before marriage. Which is what the majority of us do, and which it would therefore be far more relevant to the issue for you to actually face.

2/13/2010 3:32:18 AM

aaa

I don't think you know what a failed state means.

2/13/2010 3:39:18 AM



I think stupidity is an STD. This person obviously only fucks people who fuck stupid people.

2/13/2010 4:15:21 AM

The L

I am idealistic enough to think that most people should abstain until they are mature enough to handle it and in a committed relationship (which, more often than not, tends to equate to marriage). However, I am also realistic enough to understand that quite a lot of teenagers will not abstain from sex no matter how much you push abstinence.

Comprehensive sex ed basically says, "You shouldn't go around having sex at your age, but if you're going to disregard that piece of advice, at least have the decency to protect yourself and your partner with a condom."

Of course, my reasons for pushing abstinence have nothing to do with sex being "dirty." I view it as a sacred act, in all its forms, and that coercion and irresponsibility regarding sex profane it. My Christian boyfriend may not agree with my theology, but he likes my views on sex. We have had responsible, monogamous, pre-marital sex for quite a while now.

2/13/2010 4:43:55 AM

Xotan

Oops. Double post. Sorry

2/13/2010 6:03:23 AM

Xotan

Communism imploded about 1989/1990 apart from a handful of places.

So, you were saying?

2/13/2010 6:04:40 AM

JSS

"It has to do with one of the goals of communism, which is to completely destroy the moral fabric of a society and replace it with the state."

Because we all know every communist country has allowed same-sex marriage.

2/13/2010 6:11:47 AM

TGRwulf

Natural human urges =/= communism

2/13/2010 6:48:55 AM

Turtle

We don't push premarital sex. We just know that it will happen anyway, rather than living in a bubble and ignoring it until a kid gets pregnant.

2/13/2010 7:08:57 AM

Ajax

"Indiscriminate sex also destroys loyalties and discourages ties to other people."

Unmutual! Unmutual! Unmutual! Unmutual! Unmutual!

2/13/2010 7:16:10 AM

Doubting Thomas

OK, which is more logical?

1. People want to have sex because it's fun, and natural human instinct and sexuality makes us want to do it.

2. Sex is a secret weapon used by communists to destroy society in order to bring about a communist state.

Fundies, you'll never be able to control people's sex lives, no matter how hard you try.

2/13/2010 7:28:32 AM

John

The "left" (which to you probably means any of the 80% who are to the left of Ann Coulter) isn't against abstaining from sex until after marriage. Abstaining is fine. But most people don't do it. What people are against is not having a back-up plan to prevent unwanted pregnancy - sex education and birth control - in case people don't abstain until marriage.

2/13/2010 7:58:41 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Marriage before sex is against MY religion.

2/13/2010 8:18:15 AM

FMG

1. Communism is about the people owning the means of production. Its an economic theory and has nothing to do with what people do with their sex lives.

2. I actually think that poverty and lack of social movement leads to dependance on the state.

2/13/2010 8:23:03 AM

Swede

Marriage is just ownership, control. It's words on a paper, something that can be absolved just as easily as it's entered into. The important thing is the people involved, not the "magic" words. If two people promise each other to stay together for as long as they both want to, then that is enough. You don't need to do it in front of a priest or a judge.

Lots and lots of people over here never marry, they live together for decades without the "magic" words.

Who said we wanted queer sex taught in schools? Sex ed is not a practical class, but a theoretical one. Just as kids should know how a transistor or a computer works, they should know how their own body works, how it reacts, how to protect it from unwanted pregnancies and STDs, how to deal with STDs. Also, how the opposite gender body works, and how a baby is formed.

2/13/2010 8:41:24 AM

LOLWUT

CHILDREN'S ICECREAM, MANDRAKE!

2/13/2010 9:00:48 AM

Colgate

The stupid is strong in this one.

2/13/2010 9:04:55 AM

A fag

"The left" isn't so much against your moral values as they are against you PUSHING your moral values on everyone else and saying it's the only way. There's nothing wrong with abstaining from sex until marriage, and there is ALSO nothing wrong with having sex before marriage. There is nothing wrong with being straight, and there is ALSO nothing wrong with being queer. People who disagree with you are not trying to take over the country and force you to be gay or whatever the fuck. Stop looking at the world with this paranoid "with us or against us" mentality.

They destroy the family(sound familiar)

Hey, guess what asshole - queer people's families are families too! Wow! We don't want to destroy your family, we want to protect OUR families and have the same rights as yours.

2/13/2010 9:21:48 AM

Berny

Your knowledge of world history seems to be matched only by your incisive analysis of current events.</snark>
Fucking retard.

2/13/2010 9:59:42 AM
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