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1. If the Bible were not true, logic would not be meaningful. 2. Logic is meaningful. 3. Therefore, the Bible is true.

Dr. Jason Lisle, Answers in Genesis 128 Comments [2/13/2010 12:03:37 AM]
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ME

1. If the Koran were not true, logic would not be meaningful. 2. Logic is meaningful. 3. Therefore, the Koran is true.

`Fixed`

Insert any religious text above. Heck one could also insert most nn-religiious texts above....LOGIC FAIL.


2/13/2010 12:06:43 AM

ME

double post


2/13/2010 12:06:51 AM

Musicalbookworm

I want to see a citation for that first premise. Stuff you pulled out of your ass is not a citation!

2/13/2010 12:07:43 AM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Dr. Jason Lisle then disappeared in a puff of logic as his own the absurd fact of his very existence failed to meet any consistent logical definition of reality!

I wish...

2/13/2010 12:07:52 AM

ChocoholicBec

1. If Harry Potter was a sparkly vampire, logic would not be meaningful. 2. Logic is meaningful. 3. Therefore, potatoes are yummy.

Makes just as much sense. Actually, it makes much more sense.

2/13/2010 12:13:57 AM

DarkfireTaimatsu

The bible is the antithesis of logic.

2/13/2010 12:15:33 AM

Telesam

I can see where you got your doctorate from, Doctor.

EDIT: Incidentally, I now need a new irony meter after this.

2/13/2010 12:36:32 AM

Jon

Let's start with just that first one. How do you figure?

2/13/2010 12:39:19 AM

Hakar

You just proved the bible is untrue, since obviously logic is no longer meaningful if this is an example of it.

2/13/2010 12:56:08 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

The irony is that your Bible logic isn't remotely meaningful.

2/13/2010 1:21:10 AM

Night Jaguar

1. ¬(p^¬ p)
[Law of non contradiction]

2. (Genesis 1)^(Genesis 2)
[Genesis 1 & 2 contradict one another]

3. ¬ Bible
[Bible is false]

2/13/2010 1:22:46 AM

KDH

1. If The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy were not true, logic would not be meaningless. 2. Logic is meaningless. 3. Therefore, HHGTTG is true.

This whale that just fell on my house is delicious.

EDIT: Aw, Tolpuddle Martyr beat me to a Guide reference.

2/13/2010 1:38:14 AM

Zimmer

It baffles me how someone can be this stupid.

2/13/2010 1:41:20 AM

The WHAM Burglar

Look at that circular logic! You spin me right round babby right round...

2/13/2010 1:42:19 AM

Axon

The bible is true because it's the word of God. God exists because the bible said so. The bible is true because it's the word of God. God exists because the bible said so... and so on

2/13/2010 1:43:15 AM

Orestes

How the hell does 1. work out? That doesn't even make sense.

There is no way this man is a doctor, he probably got his first name legally changed to "Dr."

2/13/2010 1:56:06 AM

atrasicarius

You know, putting "Dr." in front of your name when you actually never graduated high school is lying. Isnt that supposed to be against the rules?

2/13/2010 2:27:21 AM

Katsuro

Clearly logic is not meaningful to "Dr" Jason Lisle. So using his own argument he has proved the Bible to be untrue.

2/13/2010 2:29:32 AM

Mr Blur


2/13/2010 2:43:30 AM

aaa

You suck at arguing!

2/13/2010 2:46:17 AM

Giveitaday

1. If the Bible were not true, logic would not be meaningful.

Why? The rules of logic precede the bible and many of the oral traditions that eventually came to comprise the bible. The rules of logic are not detailed, or even so-much as mentioned in the bible, and many things described in the bible contradict logic rather than giving it "meaning".

Your argument is flawed in it's very premise by assuming facts not in evidence. You provide no evidence that logic is tied to the bible other than your assertion that it is.


2. Logic is meaningful.

But you provide no evidence or reason as to why the concept of logic would only be "meaningful" if the bible were true. Why is it that cultures across the world, cultures without a tradition in, or even knowledge of, any part of the bible still manage to have a rich and meaningful tradition of logic? Such things should be possible if logic were inexorably tied to the bible.

3. Therefore, the Bible is true.

Anyone could use your flawed and facetious reasoning to claim that any concept is true, and they, like you, would be wrong because your arguement is based on an unproved assertion of facts not in evidence.


2/13/2010 2:52:12 AM

Anon

Doctor? I FUCKING HOPE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2/13/2010 3:31:12 AM

erlando

That does not follow!

2/13/2010 4:02:18 AM

Deftera

DOCTOR Jason Lisle? Where the hell did he get his PHD, Patriot University?

2/13/2010 4:10:18 AM

emau99

1. If the Bible were not true, logic would not be meaningful.

Logic existed before the Bible. Therefore, your premise is false.

2. Logic is meaningful.

Uh..ok.

3. Therefore, the Bible is true.

No. You're affirming the consequent.

2/13/2010 4:17:24 AM
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