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Medical professionals emphasize that they do not know what causes mental illness.[8] Accordingly, they cannot rule out that liberal indoctrination is a contributing factor.

Teaching children to accept and believe things that are demonstrably false cannot help mental health. Included in this category are the liberal teachings in school that:

* Lying about the truth, causing belief in falsehoods or encouraging conduct disorders[9]
* There are no real differences between boys and girls.
* Humans are just another type of animal.
* All there is is what you see (with or without special equipment, such as microscopes or telescopes).
* Conversely, that an unproven 'unconscious' excuses evil actions.
* Self-inflicted death (i.e. suicide) can somehow be good.
* Denying self-defense, mentally and physically.
* Denying the ability to control sexual desires (such as homosexuality & lesbianism); promoting lifestyles that lead to mental illness.
* Insisting on an illogical and unjustified "wall of separation of church and state"; When classroom prayer would promote mental stability.
* Encouraging dependence on state welfare services rather than taking responsibility for ones own actions. Dependency is a major cause of depression.
* Socialistic theories based upon materialism encourage nihilism and depresion.

Conservapedia , Conservapedia, Mystery: Do Liberal Teachings Cause Mental Illness? 89 Comments [2/17/2010 7:20:56 AM]
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#1120267

Marc

Accordingly, they cannot rule out that liberal indoctrination is a contributing factor.

This is true. Also, we can't rule out fundism, alien space bats, or magical thought rays.

Just saying.

2/17/2010 7:28:34 AM

#1120269

Nithing

So Assfly is now just posting semi-literate opinion pieces as encyclopedia entries?

2/17/2010 7:29:28 AM

#1120270

Canadiest

not even one valid point and several ridiculous, impossible and stupid assumptions

2/17/2010 7:29:54 AM

#1120276

Caretaker

"Hi, I'm Andy Schlafly. You may remember me from such instructional films as 'Hey, Commie, Go Back To Russia' and 'Gays Aren't People Too'.

Today, I'd like to tell you how all of America's problems can be blamed on those wicked commie liberals. You name the problem and I'll ~~make up~~ do the rest!

First, we'll discuss how liberals are to blame for all mental illnesses, homosexuality, and suicides..."

2/17/2010 7:40:07 AM

#1120281

Swede

Too bad you weren't taught proper English grammar. That also promotes mental stability.

Lying about the truth, that's your specialty.
There is some minor differences between boys and girls, yes, but they are way more alike than they are different.
Humans are just animals.
If you can't prove it exists, it probably doesn't exist.
Nothing excuses evil actions. Doing bad things, like teasing others, hurting others, demeaning others, are signs of lack of empathy.
Suicide is never good, surely. But, here as in so many other cases it's my body, my choice.
Defense does not mean what you think it means.
Why this "homosexuality AND lesbianism"? That's like saying "cars and Volvo's".
The wall of separation of church and state has been in place in your country for over two hundred years.
Nobody encourages dependence on welfare, but if you are unable to take care of things yourself, there need to be a safety net.
Neither Socialism nor materialism nor Liberalism mean what you think they mean. Probably not nihilism either.

2/17/2010 7:53:12 AM

#1120282

aaa

For newcomers: Yes, they are serious and yes, they are that retarded in real life.

2/17/2010 7:55:34 AM

#1120283

Big Jilm

That's funny. I went to a very liberal university and minored in Psychology and they didn't teach us anything on your list. Sorry, try again for another phantom menace.

Demonization FAIL.

2/17/2010 7:56:43 AM

#1120284

negruvoda

* Lying about the truth, causing belief in falsehoods or encouraging conduct disorders[9]
.....ummmm, religion anybody?

* There are no real differences between boys and girls.
....better than boys have no self control and girls are of the devil and deserve to be raped.

* Humans are just another type of animal.
....and your point is?

* All there is is what you see (with or without special equipment, such as microscopes or telescopes).
....all you see is a lie from satan, god is not bound by natural laws, or laws of any kind.

* Conversely, that an unproven 'unconscious' excuses evil actions.
....satan made me do it, god has a purpose, and if I repent I go to heaven.

* Self-inflicted death (i.e. suicide) can somehow be good.
....suffer, suffer, suffer and god will reward you.

* Denying self-defense, mentally and physically.
....denying self-determination, mentally and physically.

* Denying the ability to control sexual desires (such as homosexuality & lesbianism); promoting lifestyles that lead to mental illness.
....rapists are only rapists because women wear devilish clothing and make them stumble into sin.

* Insisting on an illogical and unjustified "wall of separation of church and state"; When classroom prayer would promote mental stability.
.... see about religion and god in first line.

* Encouraging dependence on state welfare services rather than taking responsibility for ones own actions. Dependency is a major cause of depression.
....so make churches and missionaries pay taxes, and not depend on the state. And stop blaming satan for your child molesting priests. Take responsibility for your actions.

* Socialistic theories based upon materialism encourage nihilism and depresion.
....citation needed. (didn't really have one there)

2/17/2010 7:57:53 AM

#1120285

Horsefeathers

"Medical professionals emphasize that they do not know what causes mental illness."

For some disorders, perhaps, but they've narrowed down many to just a handful of factors.

"Accordingly, they cannot rule out that liberal indoctrination is a contributing factor."

You realize that they also cannot rule out fundamentalist religion as a large contributing factor to a variety of mental illnesses ranging from mild delusions (i.e., talking to someone who isn't there) to full blown paranoid schizophrenia (i.e., believing that they are being persecuted by some undefined segment of society for their beliefs, despite all evidence to the contrary).

"Teaching children to accept and believe things that are demonstrably false cannot help mental health."

Not unless they never grow the fuck up and realize that it is, in fact, false. Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny have never screwed up any child as they generally work it out for themselves that they aren't real. It's a good critical thinking exercise for them.

Religion, on the other hand, leads to bullshit like your post which is obviously the work of a disturbed mind.

"Included in this category are the liberal teachings in school that:

* Lying about the truth, causing belief in falsehoods or encouraging conduct disorders

[...]

* Socialistic theories based upon materialism encourage nihilism and depresion."

Do you really want me to list all of the shit you people really do lie about consistently? I suppose we could start with Da Flud, move on to homosexuality, stop over at evolution, sidetrack to sin, pass by statistics and meander over to the existence of god.

2/17/2010 7:57:54 AM

#1120287

negruvoda

darn, sorry for double post.

2/17/2010 7:58:47 AM

#1120289

"Teaching children to accept and believe things that are demonstrably false cannot help mental health."

So would this include the idea of talking snakes, giant impossible boats and the idea of an omnipotent being creating us with original sin, and then sending himself down as his own son as a human sacrifice to himself (even though he had long ago decided human sacrifice wasn't necessary) in order to forgive the sin that he created within us?

EDIT: Oh and FUCK YOU for dragging the legend that is Stephen Fry into your opinions. Seriously it's at the bottom of the article.

2/17/2010 8:00:48 AM

#1120295

Doubting Thomas

"Medical professionals emphasize that they do not know what causes mental illness."

Wrong... chemical imbalances in the brain can cause mental illness. Why do you think there are certain medications which can control some mental illnesses?

Speaking of which, it's about time for your meds...

2/17/2010 8:03:32 AM

#1120297

David B.

"Medical professionals emphasize that they do not know what causes mental illness. Accordingly, they cannot rule out that liberal indoctrination is a contributing factor."

Logic fail. That you don't know the cause of something just means you can't say what does contribute, not that you can't say what doesn't.

Fr'instance, we don't know what caused the period of cosmic inflation just after the big bang, but I think we can discount Dalek farts and the price of gas.

2/17/2010 8:10:26 AM

#1120301

MDB

@Nithing:

So Assfly is now just posting semi-literate opinion pieces as encyclopedia entries?

Yeah, that's pretty much what Conservapedia is -- a hard core right wing fundamentalist blog that purports to be an encyclopedia.

2/17/2010 8:13:58 AM

#1120303

Every time I think Assfly & Co can't sink any lower in my estimation they force me to move the bar down another notch. Did he really graduate from college or did his Mummy buy his diploma?

2/17/2010 8:19:55 AM

#1120304

Blasphemina

Real encyclopedias do not contain spelling and grammatical errors.

2/17/2010 8:19:57 AM

#1120306

the old firm

Too easy. But I'm suprised abortion isn't on that list.

2/17/2010 8:21:22 AM

#1120310

Berny

More fail from Conservatardia.
Unless of course, those "experts" at Conservapedia can produce their peer reviewed studies demonstrating the relationship between liberal thinking and mental health?
Nah! Didn't think so.

2/17/2010 8:27:14 AM

#1120320

Orion

"Teaching children to accept and believe things that are demonstrably false cannot help mental health"

Actually it can. The Placebo effect involves lying to patients and demonstrably helps people recover from illnesses mental and physical.

"Included in this category are the liberal teachings in school that:"
*snip*
Prove that any of these are lies first and second prove they are told in schools and third prove they are told by liberals.

2/17/2010 8:44:16 AM

#1120324

mts

"So Assfly is now just posting semi-literate opinion pieces as encyclopedia entries? "

Whadda ya mean 'just now'? He's been doing it for years. The set of entries tagged 'essays' is a gold mine, if by gold you mean crap.

2/17/2010 8:48:17 AM

#1120325

Almafeta

You gotta love it when they use bullet points. Pre-scored lines along which you can cut falsehood into a dozen pieces.

2/17/2010 8:48:25 AM

#1120326

Gloria

Failure to understand medicine: Check

Ignorance about Mental illness: Check

Hysterical whining about liberals: Check

Blatant and unnoticed hypocrisy: Check

It must be Conservapedia!

2/17/2010 8:50:43 AM

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2/17/2010 8:52:15 AM

#1120329

louislois

I swear, I'm starting to think the nutcases at Conservapedia believe EVERYTHING has a liberal bias.

2/17/2010 8:54:36 AM

#1120332

Norman

Insisting on an illogical and unjustified "wall of separation of church and state".

Andy. Could you AT LEAST read the First Amendment of the American Constitution before making any sort of claim that separation of church and state is illogical and unjustified?

@louislois

I agree, this strikes me as a very us vs them attitude. To quote the immortal words of Obi-Wan Kenobi, "Only a Sith deals in absolutes".

2/17/2010 8:57:02 AM

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