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(So because Pharaoh wouldn't let the slaves go he killed countless egyptian children who had done nothing wrong?)

how many hebrew children were killed by the egyptians? its called direct justice and too bad if you dont like it. you kill a child then one of your kids or their kids will get it one day. that would be DIRECT JUSTICE. you destroy another family then one day your family may be destroyed. it makes? sense to me. why not you?

godrulztheearth, Youtube 52 Comments [2/18/2010 6:58:09 PM]
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Mrs. Antichrist

Because you're punishing the children for crimes they didn't commit. Hell, even their parents didn't commit the crime -- it was the PHARAOH, not the Egyptians, who refused to free the slaves.

If you think that's fair, you're morally and intellectually stunted.

Edit: A brain for a brain, and the whole world becomes like this jackass.

Edit2 @Razark: True. God killed the kids to punish himself. Even poor Pharaoh was an innocent victim.

2/18/2010 7:06:16 PM

Imroy

Then I take it you support Hamas and Hezbollah killing Israeli civilians in their interfada? Because many more Palestinians have been killed by the Israelis than vice versa. Is that "direct justice"?

2/18/2010 7:11:06 PM

Jewsus

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

2/18/2010 7:11:12 PM

Canadia

An eye for an eye, what does that do again?

Edit: Fuck...

2/18/2010 7:13:30 PM



/you kill a child then one of your kids or their kids will get it one day/

Fine, then Hitler was perfectly just and innocent when he killed thousands of Jewish children. After all, he only killed them to punish their ancestors for supposedly killing Jesus (even though it was really the Romans who executed him). Who cares if they themselves had nothing to do with it? All that matters is their value to whatever people that he was trying to punish.

And yes, just like Imroy said, according to your logic, the Palestinians have every right to slaughter every first-born Israeli child just to get back at their parents or grandparents for being directly or indirectly responsible for the deaths of their own children.

2/18/2010 7:17:14 PM

Old Viking

Sounds like godly justice to me.

2/18/2010 7:19:45 PM



An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind and we end up with the blind leading the blind. It also allows the one-eyed man to become king.

2/18/2010 7:23:09 PM

DevilsChaplain

Wha?

2/18/2010 7:26:33 PM

GodotIsWaiting4U

"If your neighbor slaps you on the right cheek, turn and offer him your left."

Funny, I can't remember who it was that said that. Someone important.

2/18/2010 7:43:39 PM

Dr. Razark

@Mrs. Antichrist

"it was the PHARAOH, not the Egyptians, who refused to free the slaves."

Completely and utterly wrong. Read the story again. Pharaoh _wanted_ to free the slaves.

It was that god character that "hardened his heart" and refused to allow them to leave. God just wanted the excuse to show off.

2/18/2010 7:46:40 PM

MPW

That's actually not justice, it's vengeance. Sadly, a lot of people still can't tell the difference.

It also happens to be injustice.

2/18/2010 8:04:25 PM

anevilmeme

"makes sense to me. why not you?"

Well for starters unlike you I wasn't educated with an inner tube and a banana.

2/18/2010 8:08:19 PM

Caretaker

STOP WITH THE RANDOM FUCKING QUESTION MARKS

*Has a nervous breakdown; proceeds to curl into a ball and gently rock herself in a dark corner*

2/18/2010 8:13:23 PM

caustic gnostic

'Direct justice' = Someone from a different tribe messes with you, so you get to kill all the motherfuckers.

Yeah. Sure. Sense? Make.

2/18/2010 8:21:23 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Because killing innocent kids to avenge other dead innocent kids is still killing innocent kids, that's why it's unjust you imbecile!

2/18/2010 8:22:10 PM

Rat of Steel

(Caretaker)
*Has a nervous breakdown; proceeds to curl into a ball and gently rock herself in a dark corner*


*walks over and huggles Caretaker*

You can snap back to normal now, for this is not the fundie's fault. The random question mark issue is a bug in the FSTDT public-admin program. I, for one, have learned to ignore it.

Now, to address the OP's post: Dr. Razark was right. It wasn't Pharaoh's fault that the Hebrews weren't let go. Yahweh was having a pissing contest with himself, that pompous asshole.

2/18/2010 9:14:38 PM



It makes sense to you that you could have been mercilessly killed as a child, due to the actions of your parents? First of all, you're sick. Second of all, people are not extensions of others, they are individuals. Taking "justice" on an individual who has done nothing wrong, just because they somehow know someone who has done something, is a horrific. Thinking that this is okay, is insanely moronic.

2/18/2010 9:20:38 PM

ZugTheMegasaurus

"Direct" does not mean what you think it means.

2/18/2010 10:17:50 PM

SleepNeed

Exodus 4:21 (King James): And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

So as you can see in your own holy book, to prevent Pharaoh from freeing them the first time, God forced Pharaoh to say no. So by following your logic it was God that ordered the deaths of all the Hebrew children, by not stopping Pharaoh when he had the chance when he was killing all the male babies and by forcing him to say no when Moses came around.

2/18/2010 10:20:08 PM

Philbert McAdamia



Oh, the Martins and the Coys,
They was reckless mountain boys,
And they took up family feudin' when they'd meet.
They would shoot each other quicker
Than it took your eye to flicker;
They could knock a squirrel's eye out at ninety feet.

All their fightin' started one bright Sunday morning,
When old Grandpa Coy was full of mountain dew;
Just as quiet as a church-mouse
He stole in the Martin's hen-house,
'Cause the Coys they needed eggs for breakfast too.

Oh, the Martins and the Coys,
They was reckless mountain boys,
And old Grandpa Coy has gone where angels live.
When they found him on the mountain
He was bleedin' like a fountain,
For they punctured him till he looked like a sieve.

So the Coys started right out to avenge him,
And they didn't even take time out to mourn.
They went out to do some killin'
Where the Martins was distillin',
And they found old Abel Martin makin' corn.

Oh, the Martins and the Coys,
They was reckless mountain boys,
And old Abel Martin was the next to go.
Though he saw the Coys a-comin'
He had hardly started runnin'
When a volley shook the hills and laid him low.

After that they started out to fight in earnest,
And they scarred the mountains up with shot and shell.
There was uncles, brothers, cousins -
Sure, they bumped 'em off by dozens;
Just how many bit the dust it's hard to tell.


2/18/2010 10:40:29 PM

Wookieduck

"its called direct justice"

Actually it's called a vendetta or a blood feud. It's an extremely destructive and all too common feature of ancient (and especially tribal) society. You'd be amazed at how expendable innocents could be.

"why not you?"

Because I'm not a bronze age tribesman. Personally I like civility and reason over carnage and stupidity.

2/18/2010 10:51:06 PM

Antichrist

He also killed the cattle and horses TWICE. I guess he resurrected them in-between just to do it again.

2/18/2010 10:51:28 PM

myheadhurts

Punishing children for their parent's crimes leaves no end of bloodshed.

2/18/2010 10:59:11 PM

GigaGuess

It's not justice, it's revenge.

2/18/2010 11:19:53 PM

Giveitaday

how many hebrew children were killed by the egyptians?

How many? Do you even know if any ever were? Further more, How does that justify or excuse the killing of innocent egyptian children?

its called direct justice and too bad if you dont like it.

That's not justice, it's murder. Justice would be done to the person who commited the transgression, anuthing done to his, or anyone elses children would just be spitful, vindictive cruelty for it's own sake.

you kill a child then one of your kids or their kids will get it one day.

So you are perfectly ok with the idea of murdering children who have wronged no one simply because of their presumed heritage? You people say that atheists are immoral and then rationalize and excuse the murder? Fuck You. Whatever hardships you suffer throught out your life, Do Not think, for even one bloody second, that you don't deserve it.

that would be DIRECT JUSTICE

So much for turning the other cheek.

you destroy another family then one day your family may be destroyed. it makes?

And should that be the fate of soldiers, many of them christian, who have destroyed tens of thousand of families and kiled quite a few children of the last decade in Afghanistan & Iraq? or does your "direct justice" only apply to non apply to non-christians?

makes? sense to me

That's because you are an amoral bastard whose sense of right and wrong is directly related to your ability to use the bible justify or rationalize whatever attrocity you wish to defend.

why not you?

Because I have morals that I'm not willing to comprimise just to justify a brutal religion by defending the undefensible.

2/18/2010 11:22:51 PM
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