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The germ theory of disease is a foolish hoax created by Louis Pasteur. It is a notion of nonsense that has confused millions of people and made billions for the pharmaceuticals with vaccines and tens of thousands of drugs or over-the-counter preparations. If one person in society should die of a “contagious disease,” the whole world population would expire.

Well, what about the flu epidemic shortly after World War I that killed 80 million people worldwide? According to the germ theory of disease, this flu should have killed everyone on earth. Of course, it didn’t and some people died in the same household where others did not. Why did this so-called “infectious disease” not infect the entire world population?

The answer is that disease is born of us and in us. If our immune system is strong and healthy, we could sleep with people dying with “contagious disease” and never even get sick. What a relief this is to know, but how difficult it is to get people to believe!

The germ theory of disease is nothing in the world but a commercial enterprise.

Disease comes from within. When the body is overly fatigued with excess stress, toxins and malnutrition, there is a breakdown of immunity.

A person’s nutritional status and hydration level is the prime determinant of health. Disease comes from within!

Bob Livingston , Personal Liberty Digest 43 Comments [2/18/2010 11:55:13 PM]
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jon

It's not like some people are naturally immune to the diseases

2/19/2010 12:17:47 AM

jon

It's not like some people are naturally immune to the diseases

2/19/2010 12:17:54 AM



Hey, go fuck a syphilitic whore, and then get back to me on that, m'kay?

2/19/2010 12:25:40 AM

Haseen

Hey, maybe you could inject yourself with the Ebola virus and put that silly little myth to rest ;)

2/19/2010 1:23:00 AM



You say that NOW, where we live more than 40 years thanks to that guy. Go look the conditions in the hospital in the early XIX century, and you'll tell me.

2/19/2010 2:55:50 AM

HazelHolly

what is this i don't even

2/19/2010 3:22:32 AM

A.Microbiologist

Well first of all germ theory wasn't introduced by Pasteur it was introduced by Robert Koch (Pasteur expanded upon Koch's work).

Secondly Koch didn't just pull germ theory out of the air and expect everyone to go along with it, he set out a number of criteria called Koch's postulates... these postulates have been tested and peer reviewed over more than a century and are still used today,abeit with a few modifications based on new knowledge (molecular Koch's postulates).

If you take an infectious agent and work through each of Koch's postulates you can prove that an infectious disease is derived from an infectious agent and not by spontaneous generation.

Take your quack science and go back to the dark ages.

2/19/2010 4:27:23 AM

Blasphemina

Then how come we get these epidemics of people breaking down all at once? Shouldn't it all just be totally random?

2/19/2010 4:38:46 AM

A.Microbiologist

Well first of all germ theory wasn't introduced by Pasteur it was introduced by Robert Koch (Pasteur expanded upon Koch's work).

Secondly Koch didn't just pull germ theory out of the air and expect everyone to go along with it, he set out a number of criteria called Koch's postulates... these postulates have been tested and peer reviewed over more than a century and are still used today,abeit with a few modifications based on new knowledge (molecular Koch's postulates).

If you take an infectious agent and work through each of Koch's postulates you can prove that an infectious disease is derived from an infectious agent and not by spontaneous generation.

Take your quack science and go back to the dark ages.

2/19/2010 4:45:33 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

If our immune system is strong and healthy, we could sleep with people dying with “contagious disease” and never even get sick.

Sounds like someone is in denial of his secret boyfriend having some horrible, communicable disease.

2/19/2010 5:09:22 AM

ChocoholicBec

Okay. What the shit?

Do you believe in humours, too?

2/19/2010 5:22:13 AM

aaa

You have got to be kidding me.

2/19/2010 6:10:31 AM

oop

The so-called Spanish Flu in 1918 contradicts your claims. Most of those who died were strong, healthy and in the prime of their lives. Children and the elderly were most likely to survive. Having an immune system that was strong and healthy was detrimental.

Why? Well, it seems that the Spanish Flu caused an extreme response by the immune system. The stronger your immune system, the stronger it responded. It was actually one's own immune system that was fatal. having a less developed or compromised immune system meant that it responded less, so children and elderly people were more likely to survive.

2/19/2010 6:27:50 AM



People who spout this shit disgust me, more than all the other fundies out there. People have died believing the drivel of snakeoil salesmen and faith healers - people have let their children die.

2/19/2010 8:04:46 AM

Antichrist


2/19/2010 11:29:14 AM



What the fuck did I see under the microscope, then?

And allow me to find someone with swine flu to cough in your face for about a day and we'll see how you're feeling.

Also: http://whatstheharm.net/vaccinedenial.html

2/19/2010 12:02:51 PM

Table Rock

How can someone ask how people survive disease and then talk about the immune system?

2/19/2010 3:22:27 PM

werewolf

So who was Louis Pasteur working for? Pfizer?

Idinnaknodat!

2/19/2010 7:06:07 PM

Sandwich Board

So ... what does this immune system actually do, then?

2/19/2010 7:50:09 PM

Rallymodeller

Four little letters prove you wrong:

MRSA.

That is all.

2/20/2010 2:46:29 AM

Hi

lol wow that means we all have aids hahaha and squaids

2/20/2010 9:59:28 PM

TheWriter

To be fair, stress does affect the body's resistance of germs and bacteria.

On the other hand, Pasteur was an intelligent man who debunked ridiculous ideas with simple experimentation, and germs are not visible to the human eye.

2/20/2010 11:22:48 PM

Zits


....UM...EXCUSE US...

2/21/2010 12:05:46 AM

Pule Thamex

Hmmm! Whoopee for freedom of speech and everything, but I wonder why Bob Livingston wants to make himself sound like a twit? Is it a case of an overactive ego realizing its master/slave is unable to achieve even the common or unremarkable levels of normal comprehension of the ordinary citizen and so resorts to hare-brained and individualistic beliefs of sheer teetering madness in order to deceive itself that it is superior to the common herd?

Ironically, the big ego just makes its host look like a gibbering loony and decidedly inferior.

2/21/2010 3:01:23 AM



Except it's not a 'theory'. Germs have been proven to exist.

I'm wondering if you're the type of guy who thinks illness is caused by imbalances of the humours.

2/21/2010 7:03:14 AM
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