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#1124765
The L
There was no division until fundies started stirring up shit--only diversity and tolerance.
2/23/2010 5:43:08 PM
#1124778
Reckoner
The military is sworn to uphold the Constitution and not the Bible.
2/23/2010 5:59:08 PM
#1124783
Somehow I thought this country was called the United States of America and not "One Nation Under God"
2/23/2010 6:06:06 PM
#1124785
John
"Under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954. The US military managed to survive without it for over 175 years. The last thing we want is a bunch of Christian religious nuts walking around with military weapons. If someone has a problem, we should get rid of them, not the Wiccans.
2/23/2010 6:07:02 PM
#1124789
Marc
Speaking as someone who actually is in the military, I have no problem with anyone regardless of their religion serving alongside me. If they do their job, aren't assholes, then they're fine.
2/23/2010 6:10:48 PM
#1124790
Arctic Knight
As an active duty meber of the U.S. military for the past 18 years, who happens to be an atheist, I only have one thing to say to that comment, "BULLSHIT!"
I signed up to serve my country, not anyone's god(s). I have known Wiccans, Christians, Jews, Muslims, gay, straight, bi, black, white, Asian, men, women, etc. all serving beside me. While we did sign away our life to go into combat when directed and to follow orders, we NEVER signed away our opinion, religious beliefs (or lack thereof), cultural or ethnic identity, or anything that makes us unique individuals (although, sadly, gays and bis still sign away their right to be open about their orientation). Everyone serving in the military has the right to worship whichever god they beleive in and worship in any way that does not break the law.
2/23/2010 6:14:13 PM
#1124795
Smilodon
Maybe if we only let homophobic fundamentalists in the military we won't have to hear their bullshit anymore.
2/23/2010 6:17:15 PM
#1124798
TGRwulf
So you have to be Christian to serve in the army? WTF??
2/23/2010 6:18:42 PM
#1124800
I remember my father telling me about one Wiccan fella in boot camp back when he was a drill sergeant. Did he care about the guy's religion? No. The only problem came about when the guy claimed that bathing with soap was somehow against his religion and was told to conform to basic hygiene standards.
2/23/2010 6:21:52 PM
#1124804
ME
First of all, we are not 'one nation under god" (that was added in the '50s). Second, define "god". This country was founded on religious freedom. That means anyone is free to envision god however he/she wants, or not at all. Furthermore, Pagans believe in "god"; just not the judeo-christian-islamic god. Lastly, in theory, the military is what guarantees said right. So, get the fuck over it - we are not all christians.
2/23/2010 6:27:15 PM
#1124808
Tyler
*Gasp!* People with different beliefs!
2/23/2010 6:43:20 PM
#1124818
The old "I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend" routine don't work.
2/23/2010 6:57:35 PM
#1124833
Percy Q. Shunn
Bob Barr is still alive?
2/23/2010 7:13:04 PM
#1124837
Doubting Thomas
The military belongs to the secular government and people of the United States. It's not God's army, and members of the military who do not practice Christianity should have the right to practice their religion also.
In fact, the military is presently overrun with fundamentalist Christians, and was about 20 years ago when I was in.
2/23/2010 7:17:30 PM
#1124845
jadehawk
see, this is why that idiotic "under god" needs to be taken out, and the pledge restored to its original version.
2/23/2010 7:23:13 PM
#1124856
Antichrist
Looking at American history, the army seemed a hell of a lot more efficient when it was "One nation indivisible".
Just sayin...
2/23/2010 7:34:46 PM
#1124877
campbunny
"Congress shall..." - oh, what's the point.
2/23/2010 7:49:00 PM
#1124945
dionysus
These young men and women signed up as a part of a military entity of “One Nation Under God” and I believe it reasonable that they should expect that special interests NOT under God, would be discouraged, or at the least not encouraged.
And this is exactly why I completely support those that want to remove "under god" from the pledge of allegiance and "in god we trust" from our money. The pledge and money themselves don't bother me so much but it's the smug attitude of Christians because of it that does. Just because they got their way a couple times (despite the nation's Constitution) now they think they own the place. Fundies: give 'em an inch and they'll take a nation.
2/23/2010 9:44:40 PM
#1124947
Quantum Mechanic
Wow, that was so Joe McCarthy.
2/23/2010 9:46:40 PM
#1124949
Sasha
If you mean we should send only fundy Christians to the front lines to die for our country, I might not argue too much.
2/23/2010 9:46:47 PM
#1124976
SapphireWolf
if it's "one nation under god" why did the Major who swore in my brother say that the "so help me god" part of the little speach they had to repeat was optional?
2/23/2010 10:53:00 PM
#1124987
aaa
Military doesn't work that way!
2/23/2010 11:26:48 PM
#1125009
GodotIsWaiting4U
The also signed up as a part of a military entity of one nation that unanimously ratified the Treaty of Tripoli. Sux2bu, bitch.
2/24/2010 12:27:20 AM
#1125035
Oh for fuck's sake.
2/24/2010 1:44:54 AM
#1125048
Nowonmai
But the claptrap of "Under God" was added in in 1954 to smoke out commies. The US was never founded as a religious country, but a secular one, you dipshit.
2/24/2010 1:59:04 AM
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