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As for the not using condoms thing, listen closely: Condoms...do...not....stop....AIDS. They never have, they never will. In fact, they do not stop ANY STDs! It came out in a study last year, that it was all a lie that they stopped anything except the chances of new life, at all!!

Specter, MFN Forums 30 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Gadren

Oh no! They've figured out our evil baby-killing plan!

1/16/2006 6:37:49 PM

David D.G.

Let's see: Numerous studies over the course of several decades show that condoms greatly improve the chance of preventing transmission of STDs. One study (allegedly) conflicts with this.

To me, that sounds like a strong possibility that the one study is in error -- or, at most, that further, more careful studies are needed to find out the reason for the discrepancy.

Oh, right -- that would just be scientific, wouldn't it?


~David D.G.

1/16/2006 7:37:51 PM

JM

I'd like to see this study.

6/21/2007 12:09:08 AM

Tempus

Condoms don't eliminate the chance of contracting an STD.

They do, however, greatly reduce it, along with the odds of an unwanted pregnancy.

While abstinence and celibacy are the only surefire ways to prevent either, is it your wish that those who DO engage in sex, do so without any ability to protect themselves at all? Do you sincerely want them punished with disease and/or a pregnancy that they can't afford?

Keep in mind:

(1) the sex drive is one of the strongest, if not THE strongest, instinct, that humans possess;

(2) Abstinence-only sex-ed hasn't been shown to significantly reduce the rate of STD infection, because students of such have a tendency to engage in risky sexual practices short of full intercourse without protection;

(3) Someone infected with an STD may infect multiple partners before they're diagnosed and treated;

(4) the state may wind up footing the bill if the person cannot afford to pay for diagnosis and treatment, which may translate into many millions of dollars per year lost to illness;

(5) unwanted pregnancies directly translate to an increased rate of abortions;

(6) if carried to term, mothers or couples with illegitimate children may be forced to seek welfare assistance to help raise their unplanned child, which also costs the state money.

6/21/2007 1:16:38 AM

Jim

Yes, that tends to be true.

6/21/2007 5:26:56 AM

Ambrielle

Yeah, I don't think the study exists at all, or if it does, it doesn't say what you think it says.

6/21/2007 5:36:57 AM

Goosey

Cite your sources please.

Oh, wait, that's right, your sources say that condoms do not have a 100% effectiveness rate. Which everyone already knew.

Abstinence-only protection, however, relies on the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy - that anyone who gives into temptation wasn't a 'true' user of abstinence - to achieve it's 100% success rate. This fallacy is exacerbated by the fact that 'users' of abstinence are unlikely to use any other form of contraceptive 'just in case'.

6/21/2007 10:44:05 AM

Goosey

to achieve it's 100% success rate

its not it's

Want edit function back.

6/21/2007 10:45:24 AM

pooper725

Well, since many human beings are obviously worse than getting an STD, stopping the chances of new life might not be a really bad thing after all - right?

6/21/2007 10:47:03 AM

Madame Scarlet

Link to the study. Do it. I bet you don't have one. Why? Because condoms do stop the spread of STDs by providing a barrier that many cannot get around.

6/21/2007 10:50:55 AM

Viva

It shouldn't take too long before he catches and std himself

6/21/2007 12:15:52 PM

Freboy

I thought this was something catholics tell uneducated people in the forests of Africa. But this guy's American right?

Does that mean that Europe and Southeast Asia are the only developed parts of the world now?

6/21/2007 12:55:38 PM

Mr_Vorhias

A study from where exactly?

Patriot Bible Hump University?

6/22/2007 12:52:23 PM

LT. Fred

And Australia (little souther than south asia.)

7/7/2007 6:01:01 AM

The Tomb of the Unknown Sockpuppet

Funny. A simple piece of thin rubber will protect you from ebola, and yet it won't protect you from STD's.

The more you know.

7/7/2007 6:44:41 AM



[citation needed]

2/20/2008 7:28:01 PM

Maester Seymour's Mother

They do when used correctly, 'tard.

2/20/2008 8:26:07 PM

Quantum Mechanic

idiot

2/20/2008 8:38:08 PM

Junification

OMG, my vagina and uterus are filled with STDs and no babies!! Please, God, forgive me!!

2/20/2008 9:04:34 PM

gargoyle1

So, condoms are completely ineffective in preventing STDs, yet they're completely effective in preventing pregnancy? How does that work?

5/9/2008 2:44:14 PM

Condor

shut the fuck up. you ignorant little shit

5/9/2008 6:56:30 PM



Do fundies tell lies on purpose or are they dumb?

6/13/2008 5:56:31 PM

QuarkyHadron

It's impossible to block sperm and not STDs.

7/20/2008 9:18:44 PM

JSS

It came out in a study last year [size=8][citation needed][/size] that it was all a lie that they stopped anything except the chances of new life, at all!!

6/3/2009 9:34:43 AM

smartz

Citations please! But knowing these guys, their citations are probably the most biased piece of garbage this side of the universe.

Edit: And stop reviving 5 year old threads...it's kind of annoying.

6/3/2009 9:53:43 AM
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