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Today, in addition to original Darwinism -- which many scientists have already rejected as useless -- there are three other versions of Naturalist evolutionism: neo-Darwinism, punctuated equilibrium, and panspermia, the notion that life was seeded on Earth by highly evolved beings either from another planet, or from another dimension. The latter two versions are favored by powerful Transnational Progressive New Age occult insiders such as Marilyn Ferguson, Robert Muller and Barbara Marx Hubbard as well as by channeling cults who are excitedly 'receiving revelations' from discarnate entities calling themselves the Space Brothers, the Council of Nine, Transcended Masters, and more recently, the ancient Ennead of Egypt.

Linda Kimball, Pharyngula 26 Comments [2/25/2010 9:27:22 PM]
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Boy Wonder

"Today, in addition to original Darwinism -- which many scientists have already rejected as useless"

Which ones are those?

2/25/2010 9:58:20 PM

Look out, coming through..... We're here for the crazy lady.

2/26/2010 12:01:52 AM

Sandwich Board

Panspermia does not make any claim about highly evolved beings. Microbes riding a meteorite lobbed into space after their home planet was hit by an asteroid would be an acceptable delivery mechanism.

"Marx Hubbard" - seeing those two names together is going to give me nightmares tonight. Thanks a lot.

"...more recently, the ancient Ennead of Egypt." Formerly known as the "New Egyptian Nine".

2/26/2010 2:00:01 AM

You have been reading a lot of sci-fi, dear.

2/26/2010 2:12:32 AM


What the fuck where you smoking when you wrote this?

2/26/2010 3:53:49 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

Assuming you spelled your name correctly, where the hell did of all this stupid come from?

2/26/2010 5:17:17 AM

To be fair, the Kimball isn't endorsing or giving any credence to the nutjob New Agers mentioned, nor is she suggesting they are involved in any sort of evolutionist conspiracy. All she is doing (which is quite bad enough) is trying to ridicule evolutionary theory by associating it with New Age woo. Not sure where the quote belongs, but I don't think it's CSTDT.

2/26/2010 5:54:54 AM

Yeah, New Age occultists aren't seen as people who can relied on to come up with viable scientific theories. I mean, 2012 and the notion that the Aztecs/Maya/Egyptians/whoever were actually ancient astronauts has long since been disproven.

Any scientist worth their salt has accepted evolution as a perfectly valid theory. They may not agree as to whether or not it's completely accurate, but the basic idea is accepted.

2/26/2010 8:49:53 AM

Why exactly wouldn't these highly advanced races communicate in a normal fashion? I mean if they've visited here long ago, they must have ships or a way to physically get here.

Two: Why exactly would a highly advanced peaceful race want anything to do with a mongrel, aggressive species like ours?

2/26/2010 9:52:10 AM

Doubting Thomas

Good for them. Doesn't mean any of it is real, though. And associating new age wackos with evolution doesn't mean evolution is false. The Raelian cult believes in Intelligent Design, only they believe that aliens created life on earth, not God.

2/26/2010 10:45:31 AM

Sandwich Board


RIMMER: Look, you’re not thinking alien. That’s what aliens are: alien. They do alien things. Things that are…alien. Maybe this is the way they communicate.
CAT: By breaking legs?
LISTER: And doing jigsaws?
RIMMER: Why should they “speak” the way we do? They’re aliens.
LISTER: Okay, professor, what does it mean?
RIMMER: Maybe, maybe… Okay. Breaking your leg hurts like hell, Okay? “Hell.” They do it below the knee, “low.” “Hell-low,” get it? They do it twice - twice, “two.” “Hello two.” And jigsaw must mean “you.” “Hello to you.”

2/26/2010 8:05:04 PM

Captain Klamydia


2/26/2010 9:09:34 PM



2/27/2010 12:08:08 AM


Today, in addition to Granny Smith, there are three other kinds of apples: Red Delicious, Navel, and DeLorean.

2/27/2010 2:02:36 AM


Because one possible explanation is unproven, unsupoorted and seemingly ridiculous is no reason to run off and adopt another unproven, unsupported and seemingly ridiculous explanation.

2/27/2010 3:20:40 PM


Man i got to get me some of the Schrooms you'er on.

2/27/2010 5:31:04 PM


"the Council of Nine,"
? Sombody has been watching too much LOTR... XD

FRODO: Wow Gandalf how did you do that magic you do?
GANDALF: Its simple... we are all alien seeded slimebeings called "The Council of Nine" (which is where we got the idea for our traveling group from) who are from another dimension and they have given us supernatural powers so we can carry this tiny gold ring all the way to the firey pit in Mordor....
FRODO: attempts to bend a spoon and laughs insanely at Gandalfs insightful wisdom.

YEAH RIGHT. LOL XD And im Elvis and Ive come in a ship from far away so I can assrape your cows and sheep and turn them inside out.

2/28/2010 8:01:05 AM


Do please pass the pot!

2/28/2010 2:02:09 PM


@Sandwich Board

I'd hate to be around when one of these guys is giving a speech.

2/28/2010 2:59:07 PM


@Sandwich Board

I'd hate to be around when one of these guys is giving a speech.

2/28/2010 3:05:13 PM


Funny thing is this idiot who laughs at people who think they receive revelations probably believes that noahs flood was a real event.

2/28/2010 7:22:47 PM


Sadly, New Age woo and Age Old nonsense share the attribute that not only are they folly in themselves, they also make it harder to perceive sense when it is presented.

3/6/2010 7:26:36 AM


Um, punctuated equilibrium isn't a "version" of evolution[ism? wtf? you make it sound like an ideology], it's a relatively new theory as to how evolution proceeds. There's gradualism, which has species evolving at a fairly steady rate throughout time; and then there's punctuated equilibrium, which has species mostly undergoing a few very small changes, followed by a "boom" of large changes that produce a new species. For the love of God, I learned this in grade 12 biology. Ever considered going to summer school to update your knowledge? I might end up doing that, because I want to still be "smarter than a fifth grader" in 15 years. It might be a good idea, seeing as I've been learning in high school what my parents still haven't learned in their 40s and 50s. I tell them stuff we're learning and they're like "What?"

Panspermia isn't a "version" of evolution either. In fact, it isn't evolution at all. If anything, it's a different version of abiogenesis. It's the theory that life on Earth originally started on another planet, rather than on Earth itself.

And wtf is "neo-Darwinism"?

1/1/2011 4:30:31 PM


To be really, really fair (to Pharyngula, not this Kimball nutjob), Pharyngula's just reporting on the article originally from Renew America

1/1/2011 5:08:29 PM


Linda, there is this forum called 'rapture ready' that I'm sure would be thrilled to hear more on this

<tries not to grin>

1/4/2011 12:35:02 PM

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