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If evolution takes billion of years, and recent astronomy is dating the expansion of the universe closer to only 10,000 to 20,000 years old based on recent observations from the Hubble Telescope, would this mean that evolution was impossible?

MichaelS, Bibleforums.org 33 Comments [8/26/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Crosis

Yes, it would ... IF your assertion about recent astronomy was true. (Brilliant tactic, btw ... speak in hypotheticals, insinuate a lot of BS without actually having claimed it to be true, and then when someone goes off on you for spouting BS you have plausible deniability.)

8/27/2005 5:40:43 AM

randomname

if that were true yes. however, you are retarded and pulled that out your ass

12/18/2006 2:46:22 AM

PandaMan

No it wouldn't, bacteria evolved the ability to eat nylon in less then 100 years, after all.

12/18/2006 3:07:56 AM

Fernando

As a amateur astronomer, I only want to say, WRONG WRONG WRONG...

4/13/2008 9:55:44 AM

-H-

oooOOOoh, it mentions Hubble. It must be true.

4/13/2008 10:28:47 AM

Darwin

Hubble has found no such thing.

You're a pathetic fucking liar.

Die.

Now.

4/13/2008 3:18:49 PM

Philbert McAdamia

What happened to your "6,000 years" theory?

4/13/2008 3:56:57 PM

Riddles

No, it means that because you distrust evolution because you are religious you tend to believe other things and when they contradict evolution, you think that evolution is the wrong one

4/17/2008 11:25:14 AM

Ruana

No, it would just mean that there hadn't been time for us to evolve. If the lastest observations from Hubble said any such damned thing.

4/17/2008 11:33:31 AM



It WOULD mean that evolution was possible, if it were true...

7/7/2008 6:44:58 AM

Freboy

Evolution would still be possible, but there would hardly be enough time for us to evolve from single-cell organisms.

We're only waiting for Hubble to make those observations...

7/7/2008 11:04:34 AM



"If evolution takes billion of years..."

I'd have to agree to the extent that perhaps for some, evolution may have to take billions of years to turn their DNA into a passing semblance of human decency, and you, MichaelS, could very well be one of those unfortunate cases.

7/7/2008 11:12:10 AM

Tired (but also christian)

Apparently we can now see to with in (looks for figure) 1/24000th of a second from the big bang, and by comparing it with the location and the speed of EMR we can detect how long ago it happened. (approx 12 billion years).

But that figure is dependent on theoretical physics that hasn't been fully proven.

So for a less accurate method we look at the speeds at which everything is moving away from us (via redshift) and it shows that everything was in one place 10 - 15 billion years ago.

However this age has been redefined recently and now is 13.73 bullion years (+ or - 120 Million years)

Source: http://lambda.gsfc.nasa.gov/product/map/dr3/pub_papers/fiveyear/basic_results/wmap5basic.pdf

There ya go. Defeated by a student with a web connection.

7/7/2008 12:32:55 PM

Quantum Mechanic

"and recent astronomy is dating the expansion of the universe closer to only 10,000 to 20,000 years old based on recent observations from the Hubble Telescope"

[citation needed]

7/7/2008 2:22:52 PM

StridentLobster

You can't really tell much about the universe by looking at a telescope.

Looking -through-, on the other hand...

7/7/2008 5:57:16 PM

Grigadil

Who was performing this "recent astronomy"? Ken Ham & Ray Comfort? No wonder they reached the wrong conclusion, they were looking through the wrong end of the 'scope.

Protip: point the BIG end at the sky, guys.

7/7/2008 6:54:13 PM

GigaGuess

Possibly, yes.

If you made shit up with no regard for reality, would that affect your credibility?

Yes, that would also be true.

7/7/2008 8:24:58 PM



Only if it were true. But you are lying or misled.

7/29/2008 6:28:42 PM

Jim

Well, technically bacterial life spawned as soon as the great meteoric bombardment stopped.

So it depends on the conditions of said life and planet.

Not to mention the quality of your BS regarding the age of the universe.

7/29/2008 8:49:18 PM

Canadiest

The evolution of religion shows a quick change 1600 years ago and in America another jump in less then 100.

this means Christianity is impossible

7/30/2008 1:47:15 AM

mike-mike

You idiot. You can't say something and make it true. If we can, then John Moses Browning is god.

7/30/2008 4:22:07 AM

Saringuy

wouldn't matter, mutations and natural selection (thus evolution would still happen in the future, just the ancestry bit would be incorrect if we were created. but since you just made an astronomically epic fail, you're a retard.

4/26/2012 5:20:31 AM

Dr.Shrinker

"If 'if's' and 'but's' were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas."

- The Big Bang Theory

4/26/2012 7:05:40 AM

Ebon

If your asseration about "recent astronomy" was accurate, it might. But it isn';t so it doesn't.

8/26/2012 10:09:35 PM



If the universe was only 20,00 years old , the theory of evolution, geology, and every other science would need to be reconsidered.

IF is the operative word.


8/27/2012 10:33:02 AM
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