[the question was, if God created the world why would he create the sun such that it's dangerous to humans?]
Before the Fall, the earth was covered with a canopy of water, therefore the suns rays did not reach the earth with their full power..............the sun can not kill a person - it is just a form of light - but being unwise and staying out in very hot weather without any clouds can cause a sunburn ( common sense )
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why would he create the sun such that it's dangerous to humans?
He didn't. He created humans in His image, with black skin, so they'd be protected from the sun. But then, Adam and Eve sinned, and as punishment, He turned their first-born child white (the mark of Cain) so he and his descendants could get sunburned and get skin cancer.
...what? Water is heavier than air, so it can't...no. Just no. H20 in its gaseous form floats, water (H20 in its liquid form) does not. That's just common sense.
Y'know what it above our heads and protects us from the full effects of the Sun's rays? The ozone layer. Yeah, knowing that makes the whole thing where people were fighting against banning substances that damaged it seem incredibly stupid.
"( common sense )"
Of which you have none.
Way to not answer the question. OF COURSE it's commons sense that the sun can cause a sunburn. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't ask questions about it. Why would God make it so you can get a sunburn? You can't just dodge it by saying "common sense"--is God limited by common sense?
Also, I find it really obnoxious when people (in my recollection, only people stupid enough to get quoted by FSTDT) throw out sentence fragments at the end because they either can't be bothered to put together a complete sentence, or they aren't even capable of doing so. It sounds fractured, and suggests that the speaker has no idea what they're talking about.
"Before the Fall..."
There was no "Fall", you're either horribly deluded or lying.
"...the earth was covered with a canopy of water..."
No, never happened. Another lie, I'm afraid.
"the sun can not kill a person - it is just a form of light - but being unwise and staying out in very hot weather without any clouds can cause a sunburn ( common sense )"
I've changed my mind, you're just stupid.
Yeah, people don't kill people. The knife in the guy's hand merely stabbed him. Besides, the knife doesn't actually kill people, it's the blood and other such damaged organs. Therefore, it's suicide.
Come back when you can show us how one can successfully float a static layer of water on top of a static layer of air over a sufficiently large area that capillary effects do not apply. Of course, if you could do this you probably wouldn't even bother coming back, having become a billionaire by simultaneously developing an ability that could solve controlled plasma fusion overnight.
Again, thinking about Luanne Platter after reading this.
Perhaps they need to start a branch of Yahoo! Answers called Yahoo! Bullshit.
"Before the Fall, the earth was covered with a canopy of water"
Stop right there. Prove the Earth was ever "covered with a canopy of water."
There seems to be a confusion here between 'was,' 'is', 'could have been', and stupid mythical bullshit.
One learns from the Sun, that too much of a good thing can be deadly. Dehydration and hyperthermia kill faster than melanoma.
In the real universe, the closest thing to a canopy of water would be a Saturn-like ring of ice particles. Which we don't have.
"it's just a form of light"
This argument must be from the same handbook from whence comes the "CO2 can't hurt the environment, it's just what we exhale" stupidity.
Well, not 2 B fooled, it appears Kent Hovind has indeed fooled you.
By the way, he's a convicted felon.
"the sun can not kill a person - it is just a form of light"
Yes it can kill a person. And microwaves are also a form of light, dumbass, and they too can kill a person.
Canopy of water...hmmm...It does make a fascinating image in my head. But so do unicorns. And shiny things. Especially shiny things.
(Well, arguably, clouds could count as a canopy of water, couldn't they? Condensed water vapor. But, here we are, Post-Fall, and we still have clouds.)
No, it's more than light. Visible light makes up only a narrow portion of the radiation given off by the sun. Yes, the heat energy (infrared) can cause problems, but it's the UV radiation that is the real danger. Skin cancer isn't exactly a nice infliction to force upon your creations, is it? At any rate, the sun transmits everything from radio waves to gamma radiation. In other words, the entire radiometric spectrum.
You have absolutely NO evidence for your little canopy of water theory. In fact, anyone who knows anything about the way gravity, air pressure, light and thermodynamics work can see that it's complete bullshit. It would be impossible for human life (or, indeed, most lifeforms) to survive under those conditions. I'm talking massive increases in atmospheric pressure, explosive decompression for all animals when this canopy rained down upon the earth during Noah's imaginary flood, a ridiculously hot climate, and so on. NONE of it adds up.
You fail at science forever.
Actually, yes, if you stay out too long, even on a cloudy day, without sun protection, you can get a rather nasty sunburn. Repeated sun exposure can get you skin cancer, which can kill you.
So yeah, the sun can kill a person.
Also, that canopy of water stuff is bullshit. For the Hovind ice/water canopy to be thick enough to actually stay up, it would have to be so thick as to block out ALL light, and the plants would die, followed by the herbivores, then the carnivores, and Earth would be completely devoid of life.
the sun can not kill a person - it is just a form of light
"Just" light?
image
2003 picture of a solar flare, one billion tonnes of highly radioactive white - hot burning hydrogen gas coming atcha!
But then, you probably think that you were brought to your folks by the stork, dont you?
WDPLAC 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvprBLhJx_o
Watch it, and stop wallowing in your own ignorance.
Kent Hovind is a fraud (and serving jail time for it) and as such should not be considered a prime source for anything, and certainly not an honest argument.
the sun can not kill a person - it is just a form of light
An 8 MW Laser is a form of light too, so go look in the barrel while I turn it on.
"A vapor canopy holding more than 7 feet (two meters) of rain would cause the earth’s surface to be intolerably hot, so a vapor canopy could not have been a significant source of the flood waters."
Answers in Genesis
Even your fellow Bible-believing literalists say you're an idiot.
Before the Fall, the earth was covered with a canopy of water
(CITATION NEEDED - the Bible says NO SUCH THING)
therefore the suns rays did not reach the earth with their full power..............
You have just unwittingly admitted right here in your sentence that the sun CAN harm someone NOW but didnt THEN because of this said canopy of water. Remember this...
the sun can not kill a person -
UH OH. And now your previous sentence goes out the window and all of a sudden is no longer true or applicable? hmmm funny how that works... hey... may I launch you into the sun? You know since... it cant kill or harm anyone?
it is just a form of light -
MAJOR... FUCKING... SCIENCE... FAIL.
but being unwise and staying out in very hot weather without any clouds can cause a sunburn ( common sense )
And now we loop back around to your point that the sun CAN in fact harm someone as it ONCE DID LONG AGO but with this "water canopy" its powers of causing harm were stoppable. But now it isnt... thus YOU FAIL AT LOGIC COMMON SENSE SCIENCE REASONING and the ENTIRE DEBATE period! GTFO! You have NO IDEA what you are talking about. LOL
Doing the math for this canopy of water that was supposed to be for the flood, to cover the entire planet, the canopy had to be some 10 miles thick atleast. Now, we know that at two miles, from us diving that deep on wrecks in the Atlantic, that there is no, none, not a shread of light just that little ways, let alone the absolute pitch black from 10 miles
Quoting Kent Hovind will not make you look intelligent.
And the sun can kill you, or I guess you've never heard of skin cancer or anyone dying from exposure.
"Before the Fall, the earth was covered with a canopy of water, therefore the suns rays did not reach the earth with their full power..............the sun can not kill a person - it is just a form of light - but being unwise and staying out in very hot weather without any clouds can cause a sunburn ( common sense )"
With that skill in mental gymnastics not 2 B fooled, you should enter the 2012 London Olympics. And I guess that on the 3rd October 1957, God presumably made that 'canopy of water' disappear and replaced it with an atmosphere, prior to the USSR launching Sputnik 1, amirite?
After all we can't have Creation in Genesis - and thus the Bible as a whole - destroyed by science, and Soviet science, at that, hmmmmm?
In your case, and certainly regarding your name, not 2 B fooled, a certain tune by The Who springs to mind.
Ah, back to the good old-fashioned hilarity that puts the 'fun' in 'fundie'.
*wipes away a tear of mirth*
I needed that laugh.
Uh,'not 2B fooled' I hate to tell you this but yes you were and are.
Now since we are talking real facts and not made up fairy tales, I have a question for your formidable intellect.
If jesus comes out of the tomb on easter and sees his shadow, do we really have six more weeks of winter?
So, really tell the truth, you were home schooled weren't ya scooter.
The temperatures needed to keep this 'vapor canopy' of water in a gaseous state would be at least on the order of several hundreds of degrees. Life would have been parboiled many years ago.
Unless, of course,
goditit!
The temperatures needed to keep this 'vapor canopy' of water in a gaseous state would be on the order of several hundreds of degrees at least. Life would have been parboiled many years ago.
Unless, of course,
goditit!
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