We all deserve to go through the Holocaust you do and I do. Because we are sinners. i don't think you can call it? God's will. But he could have stoped it if he choose to. God can even take somthing like the Holocaust and use it for our good and his glory.
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"i don't think you can call it God's will. But he could have stoped it if he choose to."
So it is gods will, as if he didn't want it happen, he would have stopped it. You later say that he would use something comparable to the holocaust to further his own ends as opposed to stopping it. Finally, who are you to decide if we deserve to be culled?
Fundie Beliefs #27 - Theodicy
"Theodicy" is the attempt to explain why a benevolent and all-powerful God lets bad things happen to people. For example, why does He allow six million people to be destroyed by Nazis? No problem. There’s simply no such thing as "bad". Either
Plus what would make you glorify the Lord more: winning the lottery or having Him let Satan send a bunch of Storm Troopers to drag your whole family off to a concentration camp and gas them to death? Obviously, the latter!
I have experienced and have viewed the results of holocausts and no one but no one deserves that.
If your god exists and has the power to stop such things from happening to people, he's quite a dick for not doing so. No good comes out of it. Glory is reserved for those people who stood bravely against it.
If I deserve to go through the Holocaust, your God deserves it a million times over. Because I'm more moral than your God, just like most people around today. I don't think slavery, rape, pedophilia, genocide and blood sacrifice are okay, but according to your Bible, you God not only allows these things, he ENDORSES them.
And besides that, what would send more people running to God: sitting by and doing nothing while people ate slaughtered, or putting a stop to the slaughter and saving them all?
"... Use it for our good and his glory.
The idiocy of theodicy and the excuse of sadists and tyrants everywhere - "It's for your own good just stop whining or I'll kill you - or torture you," and it also makes god some sort of self aggrandising egotist, "His glory," indeed!
We all deserve to go through the Holocaust you do and I do. Because we are sinners
What a 3 Michelin star arse gravy you served there!
Sin is a human concept, an idea that some actions are worse than others in the eyes of a fantasy figure. Couldn't care less about your so called sins.
So god could have stopped something, but he chose not to but it wasn't his will.
I think you have to do some more critical thinking on this one, dude.
Honestly, I don't think I've done anything bad enough for murder to be justifiable. And aren't you people always going on about how Jesus died to save us from our sins? Wouldn't that actually negate this so-called original sin or did he, by your own admission, die for nothing?
God can even take somthing like the Holocaust and use it for our good and his glory.
That's because yours is a bloody tribal war god who glories in pain, suffering, and death.
I'm continually amazed at how, given omnipotence (which by definition means he can accomplish anything in any way he wants to), this god continually opts for the cruel and sadistic options for accomplishing his goals. And these fucking sycophants who believe a deity like this exists are willing to make excuses for this celestial asshole and even worship him! There is no good or glory that comes from genocide and you're a sick fuck for trying to justify this horrendous crime against humanity.
Remember children, babies being thown into burning pits is good, children and mothers hugging as they suffocate in gas chambers is good, children being torn apart, poisoned, or infected with disease in experiments is good.
God, who loves us soooo much, likes to watch us endure agony. And we deserve it too, since we committed the crime of exercising the free will he gave us. Now let's get the cats o' nine tails out for our whipping session.
Killing Jews is okay because God allowed it.
You want to go through a holocaust then be my guest, don't take the rest of us sane people with you.
Blood for Blood God...
You're a fucking joke, dude. I agree that sinners need to die, which is also why I'm so happy to be just an animal. Go kill yourself.
Ok, so, what is your case for, ehem, FREE WILL?
Holocausts do not happen under the watchful gaze of a benevolent deity.
Your god must be a feind..
.. or the data fits perfectly with a godless cosmos and we humans need to take care of each other better.
Syntax fail, spelling fail, punctuation fail, coherence fail, logic fail, do I need to go on?
He's suggesting the creation of an Isreali state is a "good thing". About half the planet disagrees. I myself feel it was a mistake, there are many displaced cultures on this planet, immigrations not new. The alliance of 1948 created Isreal and alienated the Arab states to do it, we're paying to this day
The Jewish culture is alive and well in the rest of the world.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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